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Old 01-20-2011, 02:09 AM   #29
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Does this go for a new 2011 or just newer jeep wranglers? I have test driven one and the told me that the jeep is made out of some kind of steel thing I forgot but protects you great and if you where against another for sure you would win.
It has roll bars in it so it does not crush if it rolls. I think the newer ones are pretty safe.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:04 AM   #30
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Does this go for a new 2011 or just newer jeep wranglers? I have test driven one and the told me that the jeep is made out of some kind of steel thing I forgot but protects you great and if you where against another for sure you would win.
The newer one's steel is thinner (paper thin) than the older models,but they have air bags in the doors.A Jeep Wrangler's top and doors will not keep you safe,wear your seatbelt and drive at reasonable speed to avoid a roll over.
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Old 01-20-2011, 07:06 AM   #31
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Old 01-20-2011, 02:14 PM   #32
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It has roll bars in it so it does not crush if it rolls. I think the newer ones are pretty safe.
Its my understanding that the roll bars on Wranglers are meant to deform and crush during a rollover, which will absorb a lot of the energy of a roll but will sacrafice itself in the process. Its still safe (unless you plan on doing some serious rock crawling), but they are not at all like a full cage that can take anything thrown at it and just get the paint scratched. Those full cages are usually made from a heavier steel and have lots of triangulation and bracing, making them much much stronger. The bars in the stock Wrangler have next to no lateral support. They look like they could take a vertical load pretty well (which is what the standards are based around) but I don't think they'll have much strength as the Jeep rolls. I'm pretty sure its supposed to do something like this when it rolls:
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:46 PM   #33
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Thanks for all the inputs guys.

This will be my bro's daily driver. You know, usual 17 year old kid stuff, school, movies, mall, romp in the back seat, occasional winter driving, etc. So my biggest concern (apart from safety) is just how the car feels on the road. Is he going to be comfortable? Will it fulfill a 17 year olds daily driving needs?

He really liked the way they look. And he loves the fact that he can hardtop it in the winter and then turn it into a convertible truck in the summer. He's not a big fan of the Sahara but he likes the X and Sport models with the round headlights. (He's talked to me about them quite a bit once he saw this thread).
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:58 PM   #34
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Thanks for all the inputs guys.

This will be my bro's daily driver. You know, usual 17 year old kid stuff, school, movies, mall, romp in the back seat, occasional winter driving, etc. So my biggest concern (apart from safety) is just how the car feels on the road. Is he going to be comfortable? Will it fulfill a 17 year olds daily driving needs?

He really liked the way they look. And he loves the fact that he can hardtop it in the winter and then turn it into a convertible truck in the summer. He's not a big fan of the Sahara but he likes the X and Sport models with the round headlights. (He's talked to me about them quite a bit once he saw this thread).
The sahara has round headlights. The new ones all have round headlights.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:11 PM   #35
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He'll definitely love and hate it at times as it is a love/hate relationship. I had a '94 bought brand new and sold about 4 years ago. As many have already said it's dependable and fun. The biggest drawback is the gas. Doesn't matter if it's a 4 cyc. or 8 it's going to suck lots of gas. So get the 8 to back it up with power. Definitely want to buy one with the hard top and have several soft tops. Mine didn't have an ac and the only unit I had was a 2 65 (two windows down and drive 65). If you don't have a hard top you'll wish you did during the winter. Also the plastic windows will crack in the winter if you try to need to fold them down. Lesson learned there. The soft tops will need lots of conditioning as they will dry rot over time. Also the plastic windows will fade if you don't watch it when you take the tops down. The use to recommend you to roll the back window up when you take the top down. Its best to just take if off if you do. I'd definitely get another one someday but I would have to make sure I get all the stuff I want on it.
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Old 01-21-2011, 11:20 PM   #36
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Thanks its my Dads, he almost traded it in for a new one the other day at the dealership. It was that new beige color with black wheels and a lift. The 2012 models are supposed to get some more power, which they need, so he will probably get another one then.
That what im waiting for. The 2012 ones seems like there gonna take forever to get here. I hear it will be the same engine as the new 2011 Grand Cherokee. More power and better fuel mileage. To the OP I recommend you get a Jeep. Like one other member said once you buy a jeep im sure you will always own a jeep. We have had jeeps in our family ever since i was 12. Im actually torn between getting a camaro again and not using it much or getting a new 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.
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That what im waiting for. The 2012 ones seems like there gonna take forever to get here. I hear it will be the same engine as the new 2011 Grand Cherokee. More power and better fuel mileage. To the OP I recommend you get a Jeep. Like one other member said once you buy a jeep im sure you will always own a jeep. We have had jeeps in our family ever since i was 12. Im actually torn between getting a camaro again and not using it much or getting a new 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited.
I already have a Camaro, the Jeep is for my brother. I'm helping him out in doing some research and deciding if the car would be good for him. He is now torn between the Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee (only the '05 models and up, he really likes they way they look).
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Old 01-22-2011, 05:07 PM   #38
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I already have a Camaro, the Jeep is for my brother. I'm helping him out in doing some research and deciding if the car would be good for him. He is now torn between the Wrangler and the Grand Cherokee (only the '05 models and up, he really likes they way they look).
Ya i know its for your brother but is he getting a new one or a used one? If i was him id get a Wrangler. If he's getting a new one tell him to make sure he gets the 2011 one as they have a redesigned interior.
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Ya i know its for your brother but is he getting a new one or a used one? If i was him id get a Wrangler. If he's getting a new one tell him to make sure he gets the 2011 one as they have a redesigned interior.
Im pretty sure its going to be used. The budget my parents are going for is max 20k, so if a new 2011 is about that then it just might happen.
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Oh ok...well im sure he can get a 2008 or 2009 Jeep Wrangler in that price range...
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Old 01-23-2011, 05:54 AM   #41
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Oh ok...well im sure he can get a 2008 or 2009 Jeep Wrangler in that price range...
Go with a 2009 most of bugs and glitches are almost ironed out.

2007-2008 are infamous for leaky hardtops :(
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Old 01-23-2011, 06:51 AM   #42
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I have a 08 JK...Wrangler Unlimited...Vehicule serves it's purpose...
It's fun looks cool when fix up a little but....If you can afford it o-k...
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