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DarkneSS · 10-12-2010, 06:35 PM

Some of you may have noticed my thread about my motor breaking, my entire bottom end is being replaced as it threw a bearing on cylinder #4.

No abuse, oil was changed on time, NO mods at all.

All I can say is if you would like to avoid your motor blowing up I'd suggest you check your oil at least weekly!

Until I get my mess sorted out I'm not disclosing everything my tech said but all I can tell you guys for now is CHECK it! Even if you have been getting regular oil changes you still need to check it, it may be lower than you think...

Sc0rPs · 10-12-2010, 06:42 PM

pfft... isn't that what the 'Oil Light' & pressure tac is for?

Just kidding, thanks for the heads up! I'll check it in the morning before I start it.

DarkneSS · 10-12-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sc0rPs

pfft... isn't that what the 'Oil Light' & pressure tac is for?

Just kidding, thanks for the heads up! I'll check it in the morning before I start it.

Mine was 2 quarts low with no warning...

sexystreetmachine · 10-12-2010, 06:44 PM

wow whats the deal with these V6's toasting rod bearings??

motorhead · 10-12-2010, 06:46 PM

Where's it going if it's not on the ground? I don't like where this is heading.

lets_go_bills · 10-12-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Where's it going if it's not on the ground? I don't like where this is heading.

LoneStar · 10-12-2010, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

Where's it going if it's not on the ground? I don't like where this is heading.

Supposedly, it's getting burned off in the engine and going out the tailpipes.

Sc0rPs · 10-12-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sexystreetmachine

wow whats the deal with these V6's toasting rod bearings??

All new award winning V6 engine... bound to have some issues that can only be seen in mass production.

SC2150 · 10-12-2010, 07:42 PM

The V6 is an awesome engine, but due to the EPA emmissions laws they are one of the worst for oil ingestion into the intake air charge. Any engine will damage bearings with low oil levels (even if the low oil light is not on) as there are moments of aeriation and starvation that the sensor wont catch or you may not notice momentary oil pressure drop but it is enough to do damage. The key is to check often. A good oil separator added will prevent the oil into the intake, but most won't reduce the oil use, just trap it to keep it out of the intake.

ckaram · 10-12-2010, 08:01 PM

I check mine periodically, very periodically, like every couple months. Never been low yet. I'll keep an eye on it. 12,500 miles and 3 oil changes so far.

motorhead · 10-12-2010, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SC2150

The V6 is an awesome engine, but due to the EPA emmissions laws they are one of the worst for oil ingestion into the intake air charge. Any engine will damage bearings with low oil levels (even if the low oil light is not on) as there are moments of aeriation and starvation that the sensor wont catch or you may not notice momentary oil pressure drop but it is enough to do damage. The key is to check often. A good oil separator added will prevent the oil into the intake, but most won't reduce the oil use, just trap it to keep it out of the intake.

If what your saying is right then everybody should be having the same problem. They all have to follow the same EPA standards. So it can only go two ways as far as I'm concerned. Either a design flaw which you say is incorrect or everyone's motors will do the same thing under the current EPA Rules. I guess the LS3 and the L99 will eat oil also since they are under the same guidelines. Sorry but using the EPA is a cope out to me.

meschwenk · 10-12-2010, 08:11 PM

I check mine every time I fill up with fuel.

SC2150 · 10-12-2010, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by motorhead

If what your saying is right then everybody should be having the same problem. They all have to follow the same EPA standards. So it can only go two ways as far as I'm concerned. Either a design flaw which you say is incorrect or everyone's motors will do the same thing under the current EPA Rules. I guess the LS3 and the L99 will eat oil also since they are under the same guidelines. Sorry but using the EPA is a cope out to me.

GM is not alone, and I agree, it is an excuse as they can design them to not have this issue IMHO. The LS2-3 solution of the highly baffeled vally cover fixed orfice vent has helpped, but a side effect is the excess pressure that at times builds up causing a small amount of oil ingestion through back-flow into the air bridge as it is on the verge of being to restrictive to properly deal with crankcase ventalation.

The Mercedes Kompressor 4 cylinders are horrendous as you can pour oil out of the intake baffles (We dissasemble the SC unit and machine the snout housing down so a smaller pulley can be installed), and look at the Ford mod motors.

Very few GenIII & IV's will not ingest oil into the intake air charge (any catchcan, even a beer can w/two fittings in it will catch a good deal of this oil).

Allthough I have yet to build one of the new V6's, just adding the CAI's and such has shown staurated air boxes (the intake snout slopes down so in runs back into the air bridge at rest) even with only a few thousand miles on them.

The real issue IMHO is that the manufacturers seem to feel the majority of car owners are just that, owners, not enthusiasts as we are and they will never complain as they are just a bunch of sheep that drive to work/shopping/etc. and don't ever get so close & in tune to their cars like we do so they take all that into the R&D & cost to impliment a good solution.

The sad thing is the V6 owners that don't monitor the consumption issues are going to have spun bearings, etc.

BackinBlackSS/RS · 10-12-2010, 10:04 PM

Ok, but why are some v6's showing up low on oil and some are not?

10-12-2010, 06:35 PM	#1
DarkneSS Account Suspended Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS 6MT Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Westchester, New York Posts: 3,715	V6ers! CHECK YOUR OIL! Step inside... Some of you may have noticed my thread about my motor breaking, my entire bottom end is being replaced as it threw a bearing on cylinder #4. No abuse, oil was changed on time, NO mods at all. All I can say is if you would like to avoid your motor blowing up I'd suggest you check your oil at least weekly! Until I get my mess sorted out I'm not disclosing everything my tech said but all I can tell you guys for now is CHECK it! Even if you have been getting regular oil changes you still need to check it, it may be lower than you think...

10-12-2010, 08:01 PM	#10
ckaram Drives: 2011 2SS RS, 1968 ragtop Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,850	I check mine periodically, very periodically, like every couple months. Never been low yet. I'll keep an eye on it. 12,500 miles and 3 oil changes so far. __________________ 1968 Camaro Convertible LS1, T56

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10-12-2010, 06:42 PM	#2
Sc0rPs Drives: 2010 2LT / RS - 2013 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Vancouver Posts: 519	pfft... isn't that what the 'Oil Light' & pressure tac is for? Just kidding, thanks for the heads up! I'll check it in the morning before I start it.

10-12-2010, 06:44 PM	#4
sexystreetmachine Go Baby, GO!! Drives: 2010 2SS/RS, 1968 SS, 1993 Z28 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 184 View My Garage	wow whats the deal with these V6's toasting rod bearings?? __________________ "I WANNA GO FAST"

10-12-2010, 06:46 PM	#5
motorhead Drives: Love the one you're with Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Downtown Charlie Brown Posts: 11,850	Where's it going if it's not on the ground? I don't like where this is heading.

10-12-2010, 07:42 PM	#9
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	The V6 is an awesome engine, but due to the EPA emmissions laws they are one of the worst for oil ingestion into the intake air charge. Any engine will damage bearings with low oil levels (even if the low oil light is not on) as there are moments of aeriation and starvation that the sensor wont catch or you may not notice momentary oil pressure drop but it is enough to do damage. The key is to check often. A good oil separator added will prevent the oil into the intake, but most won't reduce the oil use, just trap it to keep it out of the intake.

10-12-2010, 08:11 PM	#12
meschwenk Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Aurora, Colorado Posts: 222	I check mine every time I fill up with fuel.

10-12-2010, 10:04 PM	#14
BackinBlackSS/RS Go Blue!!!!! Drives: 2012 Cruze LT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 23,290	Ok, but why are some v6's showing up low on oil and some are not?