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Ehmsea · 10-16-2013, 04:49 PM

Now that I've owned my SS for a year or so (about 5K miles now), I've been driving with the TC disabled just about all the time. I've noticed that on a spirited takeoff with no wheel spin that I have felt the wheels spin after I get to about 4000 RPM. I'm not quite full throttle, on a straight dry road, and my tires are in good shape (pressure @ 35 and good tread). you guys getting this too? at 1st I thought there must be something on the road, but it has happened to me many times now in many different locations.

I think I'm finally getting used to the feel and now I'm going into the throttle heavier than I used to...any other thoughts.

Also, I've been thinking about getting some gears (swap to 3.91s), but I wonder if i won't be spinning the tires more often...awesome problem to have...

stock SS only with CAI & scoop no tune...

Avenging Orange · 10-16-2013, 04:56 PM

Yeah, they'll spin on ya. The LSx engines are kinda lacking on the low end, dont really start making power till 4k rpm. Makes it kinda cool when you can get em to break loose in 2nd at like 50mph

JDP Sales · 10-16-2013, 05:17 PM

You need some better tires my friend! I'm sure it's not really much of an issue now, but once you do the gears, they will want to spin easier.

Best regards

Tyler
888-308-6007

ravensjeff · 10-16-2013, 05:33 PM

I'm still trying to stop burning rubber with traction control on with an automatic!!

CFD · 10-16-2013, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ravensjeff

I'm still trying to stop burning rubber with traction control on with an automatic!!

Why?

ravensjeff · 10-16-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CFD

Why?

Quicker times and save on rubber. At this level of power, you tend to avoid no traction situations.

CFD · 10-16-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ravensjeff

Quicker times and save on rubber. At this level of power, you tend to avoid no traction situations.

It's all about the hole shot BUT I still love burnin' rubber lol.

E.T. · 10-16-2013, 06:00 PM

Haha, if you're spinning now, it only gets worse

At stock power levels, some better tires might help, but once you start making more power, I think only drag radials will work. I just put some big fat Michelins on the rear and it still spins fairly easily. They do seem better than the P-zeros, though.

CFD · 10-16-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by E.T.

Haha, if you're spinning now, it only gets worse

At stock power levels, some better tires might help, but once you start making more power, I think only drag radials will work. I just put some big fat Michelins on the rear and it still spins fairly easily. They do seem better than the P-zeros, though.

Nitto 555r's will break free in 2nd no problem and mines an auto.

JCunningham · 10-17-2013, 02:35 AM

I have 3.91 m6 with 384hp 383ftlbs at the wheels. estimate 450hp at crank. I can spin them when I want but only when I want.

Denis · 10-17-2013, 05:56 AM

oh yea, i love that feeling of them breaking loose at speed. makes me laugh like a little kid

EFI · 10-17-2013, 09:23 AM

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The LSx engines are kinda lacking on the low end, dont really start making power till 4k rpm.

What now? You sure you're talking about a 6.2L pushrod engine here or do you mean a gutless 2.0 Honda engine?

E.T. · 10-17-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Avenging Orange

Yeah, they'll spin on ya. The LSx engines are kinda lacking on the low end, dont really start making power till 4k rpm. Makes it kinda cool when you can get em to break loose in 2nd at like 50mph

A lot of that feeling of lack of power at low RPMs is probably due to TQ management and the computer holding things back.

wakespeak · 10-17-2013, 10:38 AM

The stock Pirellis are don't grip near as well when cold in my experience. The engine does come alive more above 3500 rpm. Interesting comments on the 3.91s. I am looking forward to installing those, just deciding if swapping the gears, diffs is easier and also if the dealer can reset the speedo.

10-16-2013, 04:49 PM	#1
Ehmsea Drives: 2013 2SS RS Hurst NPP Join Date: May 2012 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 233 View My Garage	spinning tires in 1st gear @ 4K Now that I've owned my SS for a year or so (about 5K miles now), I've been driving with the TC disabled just about all the time. I've noticed that on a spirited takeoff with no wheel spin that I have felt the wheels spin after I get to about 4000 RPM. I'm not quite full throttle, on a straight dry road, and my tires are in good shape (pressure @ 35 and good tread). you guys getting this too? at 1st I thought there must be something on the road, but it has happened to me many times now in many different locations. I think I'm finally getting used to the feel and now I'm going into the throttle heavier than I used to...any other thoughts. Also, I've been thinking about getting some gears (swap to 3.91s), but I wonder if i won't be spinning the tires more often...awesome problem to have... stock SS only with CAI & scoop no tune... __________________ No Worries CAI Intake w/washer relocation and race scoop Ported Throttle Body (Polished) Kooks LT stepped headers 1-3/4 to 1-7/8 High Flow Cats Livernois Motorsports Stage 2c Cam Package https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKXyCyBh9BU Hill Start Assist Delete

10-16-2013, 04:56 PM	#2
Avenging Orange Drives: 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Clermont, IN Posts: 3,297	Yeah, they'll spin on ya. The LSx engines are kinda lacking on the low end, dont really start making power till 4k rpm. Makes it kinda cool when you can get em to break loose in 2nd at like 50mph __________________ 2010 Inferno Orange 2SS/RS M6 Black Leather, Sun Roof, OBX Headers, Borla touring axle back, Cold Air Inductions CAI , non synthetic fluids, BMR total bushing upgrade/1" lowering springs, DSE 32mm rear sway bar. GM fe4 shocks/struts/LCA's, AAM 3.91 diff, Vertini RFS1.8 20x9 +30. Conti ExtremeContact Sport 275/35/20. sjm autoprod ABL dash kit. Mike Norris tuned 413/419. Avenging Orange: 43 years of not buying into the Hype........and damn proud of it!! https://youtu.be/9JD9it6SmB8 https://youtu.be/xmelTlEzI34 KICKING CANCERS ASS SINCE 2015!!

10-16-2013, 05:33 PM	#4
ravensjeff 100% Chevy & Harley Man Drives: 2010 2SS: Blown LSX 376-B15 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Eldersburg,MD Posts: 2,211 View My Garage	I'm still trying to stop burning rubber with traction control on with an automatic!! __________________ LSX 376-B15, TVS2300 SC, Harland Sharp Rockers w/ Trunion Bearings, ATI Balancer/keyed, AR LT Headers/Borla Catback Exhaust, DSS 1400 HP Axles, DSS aluminum driveshaft, 3.70, Hotchkis Springs/Sway bars, Forgeline SO3P Aluminum Wheels (20x9.5 F/20x11 R)w/ Hidden Titanium Hardware, Nitto NT05 Tires (27540ZR20 F/31535ZR20 R), Billet LPE brake/gas pedals, Escort 9500ci Radar Detector Laser Jammer, Roto Fab CAI with Ice Silver box, Carbon fiber tube/MAF Housing Assy, LPE Aluminum coil covers, SS9 Sleeper Fiber Glass Hood (ACS), Carbotech 1521 ceramic brake pads, Elite catch can.

10-16-2013, 06:00 PM	#8
E.T. Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 3,251	Haha, if you're spinning now, it only gets worse At stock power levels, some better tires might help, but once you start making more power, I think only drag radials will work. I just put some big fat Michelins on the rear and it still spins fairly easily. They do seem better than the P-zeros, though. __________________

10-17-2013, 02:35 AM	#10
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,071	I have 3.91 m6 with 384hp 383ftlbs at the wheels. estimate 450hp at crank. I can spin them when I want but only when I want. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

10-16-2013, 05:17 PM	#3
JDP Sales Drives: Chevys at the limit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: SLC, UT Posts: 9,621	You need some better tires my friend! I'm sure it's not really much of an issue now, but once you do the gears, they will want to spin easier. Best regards Tyler 888-308-6007

10-17-2013, 05:56 AM	#11
Denis Drives: 2010 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Yorktown Heights, NY Posts: 7,695 View My Garage	oh yea, i love that feeling of them breaking loose at speed. makes me laugh like a little kid __________________

10-17-2013, 10:38 AM	#14
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,335	The stock Pirellis are don't grip near as well when cold in my experience. The engine does come alive more above 3500 rpm. Interesting comments on the 3.91s. I am looking forward to installing those, just deciding if swapping the gears, diffs is easier and also if the dealer can reset the speedo.