L99 conversion vs new motor.

[lildudekc]

Did you do the conversion yourself or have someone do the install? 6k isn't bad for the amount of work done with and bolt ons.

[camslambam]

I had a friend do it and I was helping so I got to do a lot of work myself. His garage, late nights, we'd start at 7pm and finish 4am for 4 days. We worked slow cuz we would take long breaks and just dick around haha. Cost me $800 only.


Mind you the figure is $6k because I live in another country and have to pay import duties (25%) and shipping for everything I order.

Honestly you should start slow man. No need to invest $15k into the car at once. Take it one step at a time. Bolt ons, see how you like em for at least a day or two, if you're not satisfied go with cam, and so forth.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by camslambam

Honestly you should start slow man. No need to invest $15k into the car at once. Take it one step at a time. Bolt ons, see how you like em for at least a day or two, if you're not satisfied go with cam, and so forth.

i would like to add though, one of my biggest mistakes was not doing everything at once. its way easier and cheaper to have everything done at one time with one tune. at least if you are getting your work done at a shop it is. i wasted so much money doing one thing at a time and it costed me extra. i have over 1 grand in just tunes, car was in shop more, install prices would have been cheaper all at one time etc. and i was the kind of person who thought i would be happy with just a exhaust now i have spent 10k on this car. it seems i am happy now though. this kid knows he wanted 600WHP lol. hes not going to be happy until he reaches his goals.

[BLACK10]

Originally Posted by camslambam

So you don't have a lot of money but you're looking into a build that will cost you $15-20k easily?

600rwhp does not cost $15-20k. Sc, cam, and methanol will make 600rwhp all day long on a l99. less than $10k

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

600rwhp does not cost $15-20k. Sc, cam, and methanol will make 600rwhp all day long on a l99. less than $10k

That's what I'm thinkin. Glad you said it. Prob 12 or 13k up here in CT with the conversion. Figure a blower installed is 7k. To do the ls3 conversion is 4 and then 1500 to do the meth. Throw in the bullshit cleanup and shop supply charge and there you go. And that bottom should last a long time with that little power as long as the tune is good.

[brantley847]

10k? are you guys really suggesting someone should do a sc/cam without basic bolt ons as a building block.... or even from a reliability stand point.

Sure, we can half ass this the whole way home and put it under 10-12k...and I might consider that with an LS3, but we are talking L99. Conversion with cam alone can push 3k with S/C edging another 7k without labor... We are at 10k with no basic bolt ons, no fuel pump, no converter, no rear end...

..this guy is stock, no headers, exhaust, intake... so throw another 2.5k before install or tune. He mentioned reliability was a concern. I would much rather have someone address the build on a more reliable method, then address numbers.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by brantley847

10k? are you guys really suggesting someone should do a sc/cam without basic bolt ons as a building block.... or even from a reliability stand point.

Sure, we can half ass this the whole way home and put it under 10-12k...and I might consider that with an LS3, but we are talking L99. Conversion with cam alone can push 3k with S/C edging another 7k without labor... We are at 10k with no basic bolt ons, no fuel pump, no converter, no rear end...

..this guy is stock, no headers, exhaust, intake... so throw another 2.5k before install or tune. He mentioned reliability was a concern. I would much rather have someone address the build on a more reliable method, then address numbers.

There are more examples of these cars running around with the 12/13k builds than there are will the no limit builds. How many do we here blowing up??? Usually just the high end ones pushing the envelope. On the street, if it's tuned correctly, you'll never be able to kill it. You'll put the car in the woods first!

The L99 will cost more due to the conversion. No doubt. And with that you'll need a boost a pump. But if you just do a blower and the basics you can do 550 rwhp for 10/11ish and be safe. So if he can live with only
550 I say find a vendor and let it rip!!

[Supercharged SS]

And then next year do a little more when you have more funds. You don't need to do it all at once.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by brantley847

10k? are you guys really suggesting someone should do a sc/cam without basic bolt ons as a building block.... or even from a reliability stand point.

Sure, we can half ass this the whole way home and put it under 10-12k...and I might consider that with an LS3, but we are talking L99. Conversion with cam alone can push 3k with S/C edging another 7k without labor... We are at 10k with no basic bolt ons, no fuel pump, no converter, no rear end...

..this guy is stock, no headers, exhaust, intake... so throw another 2.5k before install or tune. He mentioned reliability was a concern. I would much rather have someone address the build on a more reliable method, then address numbers.

from what i read from those guys. they are going by just how much HP you can get with the minimum amount of money .but yes plus i cant see a 18 year old doing his own install lol. maybe with the help of somebody else but still.

[Supercharged SS]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

from what i read from those guys. they are going by just how much HP you can get with the minimum amount of money .but yes plus i cant see a 18 year old doing his own install lol. maybe with the help of somebody else but still.

The prices we have been discussing are installed by a shop prices. Many 18 yr olds are very capable of doing this stuff so we can't really judge the OP. The stuff being suggested is very reliable.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

The prices we have been discussing are installed by a shop prices. Many 18 yr olds are very capable of doing this stuff so we can't really judge the OP. The stuff being suggested is very reliable.

ok 600WHP, i just feel its better to have more supporting mods and mods for reliability reasons over just adding more boost. getting a blower cam would be a good thing just to get that last WHP out in stead of adding more boost to reach 600WHP. i know a full exhaust camaro with a S/C can reach 550WHP no problem but with that cam you would reach 600WHP without needing more boost.

also things like headers, intake, and even gauges are a must IMO. i just cant see a shop doing cam, S/C, conversion, headers, intake, cat back maybe, dyno tune, and other supporting mods for under 12-13k.

[lildudekc]

This is great information guys, any suggestions are where to get the parts from for the conversion, And which cam would be good for a future supercharger, might as well get rid of the VVT with the conversion.

[camslambam]

Originally Posted by BLACK10

600rwhp does not cost $15-20k. Sc, cam, and methanol will make 600rwhp all day long on a l99. less than $10k

And since when is this a reliable build?

No gauges, no msd, no multiple dyno tunes to make stuff correct. No upgraded tranny. No upgraded rear.


Anyone could just buy a twin turbo, max boost and hit crazy numbers. How reliable is that?

[camslambam]

Originally Posted by Supercharged SS

The prices we have been discussing are installed by a shop prices. Many 18 yr olds are very capable of doing this stuff so we can't really judge the OP. The stuff being suggested is very reliable.

I'm sure your build cost you $12k