[Brudda*Termite]

Anybody in here using a lifetime oil filter like what Hubb and PurePower make? I've been piloting them in my fleet and am wondering if I have the guts to put one on my car. They work great from what I'm seeing on my work vehicles, but experimenting with my own car, different story. At least they look cool...

[thescreensavers]

Define "work great" have you done an oil analysis with particle count?



PF64 is 5$ and disposable, that thing is 100$ ill pass.

[Jeb114]

For how cheep oil filters are. Why

[Petrol Head]

There’s no lifetime anything when it comes to oil.

[Brudda*Termite]

Basically they can be used into perpetuity, I've visited fleets who have some that they've installed from their replaced vehicles onto the next generation. The end piece is really the only thing that's different, all the canisters are the same size based on weight class. The rep handed me one that he knew fit my car and dared me to use it. Of course, he didn't extend me a warranty if I blew the engine up!



It's disassembled and basically blown out and reinstalled, It's cleaned with bio-solvent when the oil is changed. According to the testing at 6000 miles, the oil is testing capable of going at least twice as long as factory recommendations. They're filtering down to the 25-30 micron level according to the analyzer.



My big push for these at work is the huge amount of oil and filter waste the solid waste trucks generate, we do PMs on them at least quarterly, that's a load of oil and waste filters. If we can get them to do an annual PM it would save a bunch of money and waste.


I don't intend to extend my personal car's oil life but the superior filtration and flow is what's tempting me. Definitely works better than a paper filter. Price is a problem though! The reason I'd use one is, with 10 quarts going through that little paper filter, it can't be doing a good job keeping contaminants in the filter. Oh, that fear though...

[Lazerbrainz2k3]

In this case it's not oil so much as it's the filter media. That said, I'm not going to risk it.

[Brudda*Termite]

Originally Posted by Lazerbrainz2k3

In this case it's not oil so much as it's the filter media. That said, I'm not going to risk it.

I understand it, I know it works and I'm still scared to pull the trigger with a free filter!

[Rnovrit]

I run a System1 oil filter on all my vehicles. Besides not needing to purchase filters all the time and the waste, I like being able to inspect the filter media easily for and foreign contaminates or metallic debris. I also use one on our road race 94 Mustang with a built 5.0. This car does 7-11 hour endurance races. Never had any issues with oil pressures or failures in relation to the filter.

[thescreensavers]

Originally Posted by Brudda*Termite

My big push for these at work is the huge amount of oil and filter waste the solid waste trucks generate, we do PMs on them at least quarterly, that's a load of oil and waste filters. If we can get them to do an annual PM it would save a bunch of money and waste.

Look into bypass filter systems, they are designed to do exactly what you say.



25-30 microns isn't anything to write home about Wix, Fram, Purolator all have 20 micron filters, OEM Filter for our cars is 98% @25microns.



This is just a larger filter which has more holding capacity, only way to tell how its doing is through its oil change interval is through particle analysis.

[RandRZL1]

OK so nobody mentioned the bypass PSI? From what I have heard the LT1/LT4 is a lot higher than normal, and the “new” hipo filter has even higher bypass pressure? I maybe all wet though!

[Brudda*Termite]

Originally Posted by thescreensavers

Look into bypass filter systems, they are designed to do exactly what you say.



25-30 microns isn't anything to write home about Wix, Fram, Purolator all have 20 micron filters, OEM Filter for our cars is 98% @25microns.



This is just a larger filter which has more holding capacity, only way to tell how its doing is through its oil change interval is through particle analysis.

Agree with you on the micron ratings with paper filters, but they do fill up too fast and reroute unfiltered oil back into the motor faster. The larger capacity and better flow is what I want for my car, I ain't extending any oil change intervals at the house.


Bypass filtration is definitely successful, but it's a lot to deal with. Our analysis results are showing a 25 micron max with a triple service cycle interval on big old dirty diesels and the spin-on mesh filters are simple, one unit. Bypass filtration from my experience in government fleets has too much stuff to add to the trucks which result in a lot of replacing components due to "events", haha...

[Indy_62]

I used a similar filter for my twin cam Harley. No problems in 6 years of use. It also had a magnet to attract any stray metal.

[Brudda*Termite]

Originally Posted by Indy_62

I used a similar filter for my twin cam Harley. No problems in 6 years of use. It also had a magnet to attract any stray metal.

Sounds like that one might have been a PurePower unit...

[wavsine]

Originally Posted by Brudda*Termite

Anybody in here using a lifetime oil filter like what Hubb and PurePower make? I've been piloting them in my fleet and am wondering if I have the guts to put one on my car. They work great from what I'm seeing on my work vehicles, but experimenting with my own car, different story. At least they look cool...

Nuts. Guys old enough to have owned a car with a canister oil filter will remember what a PITA and mess it was to change one. Also keep in mind that engineers spec the bypass valve on OEM filters.


Would love to be a fly on the wall when some poor soul files a claim with GM for a blown engine and tries to explain the "lifetime" oil filter.