Question for the "it has to be a v8" folks...

[ToolFan66]

I'm a V8 guy, and it had to be a V8 or nothing in the Camaro, but I'm pretty sure GM has sold a lot more V6 Camaros then V8's, so death of Camaro with a more beefy V6 and 4 cyl?

I doubt it, but no worries here as they will have the V8 in the 6th gen anyways, so no need to argue...

[Red2014SS]

Here is a little treat for you..

My client list contains over 5000 names and phone numbers. One of them works for GM.

He told me they are working hard on a Twin Turbo V4. He said it sounds great. Puts out big numbers too.

That's all I can say. I promised.

[snarky]

Originally Posted by Red2014SS

Here is a little treat for you..

My client list contains over 5000 names and phone numbers. One of them works for GM.

He told me they are working hard on a Twin Turbo V4. He said it sounds great. Puts out big numbers too.

That's all I can say. I promised.

hope it sounds better than my neighbors ATS V6. Good looking car, easy on the eyes. On the ears however, not so much.

[ssrs2lt]

ImoThe purpose of the car is more important than cylinders. Dd v6 track v8.. I've owned both ss non ss.. I'm more interested in hp for my next car. Funny talk about no turbo bs.. Yet the zl1 rocks!

[JR 1]

Originally Posted by The_Blur

The argument between FI V6s and V8s sounds a lot like the stuff people said about fuel injection being implemented or for that matter the idea of a "horseless carriage". Progress comes in many forms, and power is going to be more important to most of you than how many cylinders you have under the hood. Eventually, you'll find that out when you try it. The vast majority of people I've met who have this "V8 only" mentality haven't cracked open their hood for anything other than an oil change. It's disappointing for a group who claims to defend the superior way of doing things. At one point, people not that different said they'll never buy fuel injection. Someday, those choices might be taken away from you. Accept the fast car on virtue of being fast.

I don't agree with this at all, and I'm not a hardcore V8 guy either. My first Camaro was a V6, but I think the V8 still defines the character of the car. Comparing an FI V6 vs. an NA V8 to fuel injection vs. carbs or horses to horseless carriages is ridiculous. I have to laugh at this

Fuel injection is obviously superior to a carburetor in every way, performance, fuel economy, reliability, drivability, etc. I'm not sold on the superiority of a FI V6 to a V8. Sure in some situations they are shown to have better fuel economy (like the EPAs silly and outdated testing procedure) but in the real world there is usually little or no advantage. The FI engines are generally more complex and expensive as well. All the things that make modern V6 engines efficient and powerful (turbos, direct injection, vvt, higher gear transmissions, etc.) can and are also used on V8s so I fail to see how these high power V6 engines mean the death of the V8. Sorry, but I'm not going to blindly jump on the smaller cylinder count is the future bandwagon. Sure that's the trend, but I don't see a lot of benefits.

If you want to talk about people clinging to old ways or a true change we should be talking about gas engines vs. EVs, or plug in hybrids. Maybe even fuel cells. The V6 Camaro certainly won't be what kills the V8 Camaro, it will be a completely new technology not simply a smaller displacement engine.

In fact I would wager that the V6 engine would be dropped from the Camaro before the V8 would. Most people who buy the V8 really want a V8, a V6 or even 4 banger with the same power just won't cut it. However, the V6 guys mostly don't care about cylinder count. If you give them a twin turbo 4 that makes more power for the same money they would probably be happy.

[Chevycamarors@19]

Honestly, if they replace the v8 with twin turbo v6 the camaro will see its 2nd death. Now if they retire the camaro and start fresh with some thing else then more power to them but the camaro is a v8 car. I know that is odd coming from a v6 guy but honestly I see no benefit from getting rid of a v8 for a turbo v6, just like I see no reason to replace the v6 with a turbo v4. I wouldve have loved a v8 but where I am in life I couldnt afford one so I compromised, I got good power from the next best thing to a v8 and efficiency. Definately not knocking the v6 or the twin turbo v6 route, I love my v6 its has great power and once moded will be that much better. But will admit v8 and camaro go together like cereal and milk.

[z28racer]

No 8, no go.

[FilibustaRhymes]

I bought a Camaro because it has a V8, I didn't buy the V8 because it happened to be in a Camaro.

If the next one isn't an 8, but Ford and Dodge are still offering 8's, then I'm taking a harder look at those cars instead.

I would never rule out a FI V6 by any means, but if I want a V8 then that's what I'm going to try to get.

[robsbandit]

You can't make a v6 sound as good as a v8. The visceral experience has a lot to do with the driving enjoyment. I didn't buy a Camaro because it is efficient and economical.

[MrChrisLS3]

I really like the sound and the feel of the V8. I could've bought a newer, lower mile V6, but I went with the V8 with few more miles instead.

Would I not purchase another if no V8 were available? Depends on the whole package. Let's put it this way, when I bought my SS, if I had the means at that time to get a TT V6 ATS coupe, I just might have gone in that direction. The jury is still out.

But I wouldn't worry, I don't see GM dropping the V8 engine program for a couple of generations yet. Probably be talking about this transistion in "Camaro 9" forums.

[GMTool]

As long as our vehicles continue to use the ancient technology of internal combustion I won't change. I'm all about plain old long lasting, dependable, reliable, raw strength. Naturally sucking in air, mixing it with fuel, firing it to explode, and shoving the exhaust out the back. Just give me a good modern well designed strong V8 with a modern transmission and drive train geared to move the car with little effort and maintain decent mpg.

I use the example of driving up a long steep hill on a hot and humid 98+ degree day with passengers in the car the AC blasting and the trunk full of stuff. A strong V8 with a good engine cooling system and a good people cooling system inside the car, that's what I need. Little engines with steroid strength don't do it for me.

[gnturboray]

The Grand National is a turbo v6 and is all out muscle car!

[Chris1SS1LE]

It doesn't have to be a V8, some of my fondest cars were 4 Cyl. '85 Mustang SVO which killed quite a few V8's, VW GTI which killed a few muscle cars in the 80's, and next to the 1LE best handler ever 04 SVT Focus with Yoko 008 Shaved tires. Better get used to small motors with multi staged turbos and hybrid drive assist because that is 60% of the projects I am dealing with at work for engines in the future. Its going to be pretty cool when the aftermarket gets ahold of these motors, because it will be pretty much Tabletop dyno figures, basically a hybrid drive can fill in all the low dips or lags. Lets not forget after engine technology to increase mileage, comes lightweight. The super car mono carbon fiber chassis, will bleed down to normal cars using more future fabrics with less cost of carbon fiber, but simular strengths. That means more benefit for the performance enthusiast. I know some people worry about cars driving themselves, but they have a benefit. Say you want to drive from NYC to California by yourself. The car drives while you sleep to great roads of america like the dragon, then you take over etc. all the way to California in 1.5 days.

[Cars and Tea]

Some of it is a matter of the engine availability.

The Camaro comes in 4x engine types. (not counting the LS3/L99)

V6
V8 (for SS)
V8+Supercharger
V8 (for Z28)

What you see is the performance variant is always a V8. (Just look at motorsports and the Camaro always a V8)

And by having a V6 you have the lowest engine variant and you buy it for the look.

But IMO, that is form over function and is not how most car enthusiasts roll.

Your argument of a Ford GT with a TTV6 is pointless because that is the only available option.

Think Nissan GT-R.

If you own a Nissan GT-R no one is like "ohhh sucks you got a V6". The TTV6 is the only option.

If you buy a V6 then OWN IT, LOVE IT.

What I normally see is V6 owners denying why they bought it and always trying to compare to a V8, but when a V8 owner does the reverse everyone is mad.

LOVE WHAT YOU DRIVE. If you want a V6 get it, but it will not be near the peak of Camaro happiness.