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ThaCamaroKid · 02-23-2013, 10:55 PM

So I was just curious how E85 would affect the engine, say if I put in a tank of E85 and then the next week a tank of 93 Octane is my main worry. I just dont know alot about it. I do know it generally gives more power to cars ( like a higher octane gas ) But that would really just be a side benefit.

Any input would be appreciated

IH8OPEC · 02-23-2013, 11:21 PM

HUH? E85 will not work in any production Camaro at all!!

1. The fuel system is not made to handle it.
2. The ECM has no calibration to run it.
3. Idiocy is generally not warrantable!

ThaCamaroKid · 02-23-2013, 11:28 PM

I figured it would mess with the ECM/fuel system, I just wasnt sure, most new cars are made to be compatable with it I guess Chevy decided it wasnt popular enough

Oh well, I will probably have a new fuel system eventually anyway thanks for the info

376LS3 · 02-23-2013, 11:30 PM

Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.

AdamZ · 02-23-2013, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IH8OPEC

HUH? E85 will not work in any production Camaro at all!!

1. The fuel system is not made to handle it.
2. The ECM has no calibration to run it.
3. Idiocy is generally not warrantable!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 376LS3

Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.

THey are lying. Do it. Take plenty of vids so we can see what happens

376LS3 · 02-23-2013, 11:37 PM

Lol!! Ya, go ahead, and be sure to report back!

biggerisbetter · 02-23-2013, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdamZ

THey are lying. Do it. Take plenty of vids so we can see what happens

Haha

jd10013 · 02-24-2013, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaCamaroKid

I figured it would mess with the ECM/fuel system, I just wasnt sure, most new cars are made to be compatable with it I guess Chevy decided it wasnt popular enough

the LFX engine (not sure about the V8's) is E85 compatible, the rest of the fuel system isn't.

ThaCamaroKid · 02-26-2013, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 376LS3

Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want.

Haha why do you think I asked, like I said I do not know much about E85 I was curious, eventually I will probably replace the fuel system eventually anyway so guess I will look into it then,

Thanks for the info

Chrisrp454 · 02-26-2013, 11:49 AM

From My 2010 owners manual.
8-46:
"Gasolines containing oxygenates,
such as ethers and ethanol,
and reformulated gasolines
might be available in your area.
We recommend that you use these
gasolines, if they comply with the
specifications described earlier.
However, E85 (85% ethanol) and
other fuels containing more than
10% ethanol must not be used in
vehicles that were not designed for
those fuels."

429 · 02-26-2013, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 376LS3

=E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere.

You must believe everything you read on the internet. Eats plastic... lmao. What do you think the fuel tank is made of.

E85 won't hurt a single thing in your fuel system. You will need bigger injectors (and pumps) and a tune to run it.

Iam Broke · 02-26-2013, 01:19 PM

On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer.

It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years.

ThaCamaroKid · 02-27-2013, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 429

You must believe everything you read on the internet. Eats plastic... lmao. What do you think the fuel tank is made of.

E85 won't hurt a single thing in your fuel system. You will need bigger injectors (and pumps) and a tune to run it.

Thanks for that I assumed I would need a tune, I just wasnt sure about the injecters/pumps and all of that. I wish I knew everything about this car but I feel like i hardly know anything

ThaCamaroKid · 02-27-2013, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iam Broke

On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer.

It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years.

Thanks, still a bit fuzzy on all of this, basically I have gathered don't put E85 in it until fuel system upgrade, and tune obviously

02-23-2013, 10:55 PM	#1
ThaCamaroKid Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Royse City Tx. Posts: 597 View My Garage	E85? So I was just curious how E85 would affect the engine, say if I put in a tank of E85 and then the next week a tank of 93 Octane is my main worry. I just dont know alot about it. I do know it generally gives more power to cars ( like a higher octane gas ) But that would really just be a side benefit. Any input would be appreciated __________________ 375RWHP/399RWTQ

02-23-2013, 11:28 PM	#3
ThaCamaroKid Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Royse City Tx. Posts: 597 View My Garage	I figured it would mess with the ECM/fuel system, I just wasnt sure, most new cars are made to be compatable with it I guess Chevy decided it wasnt popular enough Oh well, I will probably have a new fuel system eventually anyway thanks for the info __________________ 375RWHP/399RWTQ

02-23-2013, 11:30 PM	#4
376LS3 Eh, that'll happen Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,841	Yes, the fuel system can not handle it. Stoich for E85 is like 9.6:1 compared to the 14.7:1 of gas. The stock injectors can not handle that, and you will run severely lean since the engine is trying to run at 14.7, not 9.6. E85 also eats rubber fuel lines and plastic, so youd be leaking, everywhere. Its not magical racing gas that you can put in when you want. __________________ 2010 Camaro SS LS3 - No Modz

02-23-2013, 11:37 PM	#6
376LS3 Eh, that'll happen Drives: 2010 2SS Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 1,841	Lol!! Ya, go ahead, and be sure to report back! __________________ 2010 Camaro SS LS3 - No Modz

02-26-2013, 11:49 AM	#10
Chrisrp454 Drives: 2010 ABM 2SS/RS M6, 98Z28 M6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Granbury, Tx Posts: 1,532 View My Garage	From My 2010 owners manual. 8-46: "Gasolines containing oxygenates, such as ethers and ethanol, and reformulated gasolines might be available in your area. We recommend that you use these gasolines, if they comply with the specifications described earlier. However, E85 (85% ethanol) and other fuels containing more than 10% ethanol must not be used in vehicles that were not designed for those fuels." __________________ Always Remember! Rest in Peace Brothers 9/11/2001. And thanks to all those who defend and serve! Ordered 5/23/2009 3400 with TPW of 08/03/09 3800 8/11/2009 Arrived 8/21/2009 2SS/RS/Aqua Blue/Grey Interior

02-23-2013, 11:21 PM	#2
IH8OPEC ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Drives: 2010 VR/W 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Ellijay, GA Posts: 509	HUH? E85 will not work in any production Camaro at all!! 1. The fuel system is not made to handle it. 2. The ECM has no calibration to run it. 3. Idiocy is generally not warrantable!

02-26-2013, 01:19 PM	#12
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	On the stock calibration you could run up to about 30% ethanol and the long term fuel trims will compensate even at WOT without a CEL. Mixed 3:1 E10 93 and E85 would be around 29% E and 96 octane. I ran E47 last summer pre TVS, now I've upgraded the fuel system and plan on going up to E85 blown this summer. It's not going to destroy the fuel system. I ran E85 in my WS6 for years. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built. Last edited by Iam Broke; 02-26-2013 at 02:06 PM.