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air1kdf · 03-05-2013, 10:54 PM

I put on an Fastlane Pipeline on my completely stock 2012 SS. Like everybody else I looked at Jannety's excellent tests, and the GM High Tech article. In addition I had an 02 Z06 in the past that I put a vararam on and it really woke that car up. Along with a Lightning that I had a box similar to the CAI with a huge cold air vent. And a an 01 Cobra with just a K&N. All of them were a huge improvement.

I wanted to point out that I felt that the magazine article wasn't fair because of the difference in temperatures. But that is also a real test, which means more to me than a dyno pull. What I really looked at was temp delta after the run compared to ambient. This would show that stock sucks hot air and most of the others were an improvement. This coincides with improvements that others are seeing with different intakes.

I'm running without a tune, but did reset the LTFT's, after a run. Interesting that at 4650 hz and above the STFT were significantly increased, which also shows higher density air delivered. On the street, it showed 0-2 degrees above ambient. When I punched it traction control took on a whole new meaning. I can't believe how much more torque is being delivered. I'll run it for a tank to let the LTFT's settle (which were all high because of the cold air with a stock intake), then log the KR and fuel trims.

So in the end I just wanted to say that I think that most of the intakes probably do very well compared to stock in actual driving conditions. For those on the fence with an intake. Do it, and enjoy more power.

striker1703 · 03-06-2013, 04:09 PM

Congrats on your intake install and new found power.

air1kdf · 03-06-2013, 06:14 PM

Thanks Striker... So how do you like the vararam compared to the pipeline?

I also forgot to mention that it sounds much nicer than stock. When you hammer down, you can hear the engine a little better.

thahemp · 03-06-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by air1kdf

I put on an Fastlane Pipeline on my completely stock 2012 SS. Like everybody else I looked at Jannety's excellent tests, and the GM High Tech article. In addition I had an 02 Z06 in the past that I put a vararam on and it really woke that car up. Along with a Lightning that I had a box similar to the CAI with a huge cold air vent. And a an 01 Cobra with just a K&N. All of them were a huge improvement.

I wanted to point out that I felt that the magazine article wasn't fair because of the difference in temperatures. But that is also a real test, which means more to me than a dyno pull. What I really looked at was temp delta after the run compared to ambient. This would show that stock sucks hot air and most of the others were an improvement. This coincides with improvements that others are seeing with different intakes.

I'm running without a tune, but did reset the LTFT's, after a run. Interesting that at 4650 hz and above the STFT were significantly increased, which also shows higher density air delivered. On the street, it showed 0-2 degrees above ambient. When I punched it traction control took on a whole new meaning. I can't believe how much more torque is being delivered. I'll run it for a tank to let the LTFT's settle (which were all high because of the cold air with a stock intake), then log the KR and fuel trims.

So in the end I just wanted to say that I think that most of the intakes probably do very well compared to stock in actual driving conditions. For those on the fence with an intake. Do it, and enjoy more power.

I noticed the exact same thing with my pipeline. I actually have a weird misfire problem with the pipeline + ported TB and traction control on. If I punch it... it just hesitates and makes no power. With the TC off, on the other hand, it runs perfectly. The power gain is very apparent. Really nice upgrade for the money.

thahemp · 03-06-2013, 08:55 PM

BTW. Add the 3" exhaust note, and I'm down to 4/32" after 10,000 miles.

litle88 · 03-06-2013, 10:23 PM

Vararam has been on mine for about 2 years now not a problem.

striker1703 · 03-07-2013, 01:42 AM

[QUOTE=air1kdf;6254004]Thanks Striker... So how do you like the vararam compared to the pipeline?

I'm not quite sure yet. At first the Vararam felt no different than the pipeline intake but that was expected within the first few miles. It might be mental but after 100 or so miles the car seems to have woken up and adjusted to the Vararam. The car is responding well while on the highway at higher speeds. I purchased the Vararam with the sole purpose to try it out at the drag strip this Friday so I should be able to tell the difference then.

03-05-2013, 10:54 PM	#1
air1kdf Drives: his 45th SS everywhere Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 146	Nice improvement I put on an Fastlane Pipeline on my completely stock 2012 SS. Like everybody else I looked at Jannety's excellent tests, and the GM High Tech article. In addition I had an 02 Z06 in the past that I put a vararam on and it really woke that car up. Along with a Lightning that I had a box similar to the CAI with a huge cold air vent. And a an 01 Cobra with just a K&N. All of them were a huge improvement. I wanted to point out that I felt that the magazine article wasn't fair because of the difference in temperatures. But that is also a real test, which means more to me than a dyno pull. What I really looked at was temp delta after the run compared to ambient. This would show that stock sucks hot air and most of the others were an improvement. This coincides with improvements that others are seeing with different intakes. I'm running without a tune, but did reset the LTFT's, after a run. Interesting that at 4650 hz and above the STFT were significantly increased, which also shows higher density air delivered. On the street, it showed 0-2 degrees above ambient. When I punched it traction control took on a whole new meaning. I can't believe how much more torque is being delivered. I'll run it for a tank to let the LTFT's settle (which were all high because of the cold air with a stock intake), then log the KR and fuel trims. So in the end I just wanted to say that I think that most of the intakes probably do very well compared to stock in actual driving conditions. For those on the fence with an intake. Do it, and enjoy more power.

03-06-2013, 04:09 PM	#2
striker1703 striker Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 227 View My Garage	Congrats on your intake install and new found power. __________________

03-06-2013, 08:55 PM	#5
thahemp Geek Drives: 2012 Black LS3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Derby, KS Posts: 4,343 View My Garage	BTW. Add the 3" exhaust note, and I'm down to 4/32" after 10,000 miles. __________________ 01000111011011110110111101100100001000000110110001 11010101100011011010110010000001110111011010010111 01000110100000100000011101000110100001101001011100 110010000001101111011011100110010100100001 x = ac97968bd3df8f968c8cd3df998a9c94d3df9c8a918bd3df9c 909c94df8c8a9c949a8dd3df92908b979a8ddf998a9c949a8d d3df8b968b8cd1 x = ~x

03-06-2013, 10:23 PM	#6
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	Vararam has been on mine for about 2 years now not a problem. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

03-07-2013, 01:42 AM	#7
striker1703 striker Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Arizona Posts: 227 View My Garage	[QUOTE=air1kdf;6254004]Thanks Striker... So how do you like the vararam compared to the pipeline? I'm not quite sure yet. At first the Vararam felt no different than the pipeline intake but that was expected within the first few miles. It might be mental but after 100 or so miles the car seems to have woken up and adjusted to the Vararam. The car is responding well while on the highway at higher speeds. I purchased the Vararam with the sole purpose to try it out at the drag strip this Friday so I should be able to tell the difference then. __________________

03-06-2013, 06:14 PM	#3
air1kdf Drives: his 45th SS everywhere Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 146	Thanks Striker... So how do you like the vararam compared to the pipeline? I also forgot to mention that it sounds much nicer than stock. When you hammer down, you can hear the engine a little better.