Mustangs................

[syr74]

Originally Posted by MontyCarlo

Motor Trend, Edmunds, Popular Mechanics and MSN Auto (the 4 comparisons we've got linked in the forum sticky) put the Camaro ahead.

I never said Camaro never won a comparo, you stated that Mustang is always a close second in the camaros so I pointed out that this isn't an accurate statement. However, if you want to 'keep score' when you add Consumer Reports and Road and Track to the mix Ford and Chevy take four a piece, but look at that mix...

Of the four major auto rags....Motor Trend, Car and Driver, Road and Track, and Automobile....Mustang took three out of four and throws Consumer Reports in for good measure. GM takes one of the major names, Motor Trend, and three of the lesser titles from MSN auto, PM, and Edmunds.

[scrming]

Bench racing is pointless... running at a track puts the driver in the equation and with that ANYTHING can happen! Driving your car at the track is completely different than taking off at a stop sign.... especially if you've never been at track, you're nervous, you're running on street tires, you're adrenalin gets the best of you... lights come down... you hit the gas and then proceed to just sit there and spin.... Trust me... I see it all the time...

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by scrming

Bench racing is pointless... running at a track puts the driver in the equation and with that ANYTHING can happen! Driving your car at the track is completely different than taking off at a stop sign.... especially if you've never been at track, you're nervous, you're running on street tires, you're adrenalin gets the best of you... lights come down... you hit the gas and then proceed to just sit there and spin.... Trust me... I see it all the time...

Yeah it is different. Especially if the track sucks :(

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by a_Username

Exactly! I hate how people go "well the Camaro has 100 more horsepower". Well the mustang weighs a lot less than the Camaro. That's why you can't compare specs in a fair arguement!

need to calculate power to weight ratio for accleration.. but that isnt everything because at high speeds higher HP car will have higher top speed if co efficient of drag the same..

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

need to calculate power to weight ratio for accleration.. but that isnt everything because at high speeds higher HP car will have higher top speed if co efficient of drag the same..

Yes.. but unless you are comparing a 2010 RS vs the 2010 SS you are going to have variances... for instance I made far less power than the 2010 SS but I have slightly better aeros, I'm 41xlbs lighter, and I have SRA instead of IRS.. . these variables alone confuse the situation and make benchracing difficult.

[meanmike]

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[meanmike]

Here's a photo of the alien abducting MJ

[GQ4Life]

Originally Posted by S8ER01Z

Yes.. but unless you are comparing a 2010 RS vs the 2010 SS you are going to have variances... for instance I made far less power than the 2010 SS but I have slightly better aeros, I'm 41xlbs lighter, and I have SRA instead of IRS.. . these variables alone confuse the situation and make benchracing difficult.

yea there are alot of varibles.. but power to weight ratio does make a good starting point..

[manimsoblack]

Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

The GT is a nice car. It's won almost all comparison tests it has been in so somebody thinks so. More horsepower does not mean better, only faster. And in the case of the Camaro only in a straight line.

The BMW jokes don't work on me but anger will make a person resort to name calling. Are you mad???

But most tracks consist of straight and turns, so if all the Camaro has to do is not get passed in a corner and it'll out muscle the Mustang once it hits a straight. And since most tracks start off straight then turn, the Camaro will end up in front going into the first turn. And it hasn't won almost all the comparo's it's about 50/50 and in most of those cases it only edged out the Camaro in cornering and subjective things like "fun to drive."

[a_Username]

Originally Posted by manimsoblack

But most tracks consist of straight and turns, so if all the Camaro has to do is not get passed in a corner and it'll out muscle the Mustang once it hits a straight. And since most tracks start off straight then turn, the Camaro will end up in front going into the first turn. And it hasn't won almost all the comparo's it's about 50/50 and in most of those cases it only edged out the Camaro in cornering and subjective things like "fun to drive."

People think if you bring a Mustang and Camaro to a track that the Mustang would win; and this would be the case if it wasn't nothing but a big long ass curve.

[All-Or-Nothing]

Originally Posted by a_Username

People think if you bring a Mustang and Camaro to a track that the Mustang would win

9 times out of 10 that would be correct
































And the thread continues

[manimsoblack]

Originally Posted by All-Or-Nothing

9 times out of 10 that would be incorrect

fixed

[S8ER01Z]

Originally Posted by GQ4Life

yea there are alot of varibles.. but power to weight ratio does make a good starting point..

As long as the people doing the comparison understand the complexities I agree. The problem is most people I see making comments seem to be focused on one thing alone. Even then they still don't realize their flaw and continue to compare published ratings instead of realizing that drivetrain effects how much power actually reaches the ground and to be as accurate as possible they should be using RWHP to compute hp to weight ratios when possible.

[MontyCarlo]

I think we've strayed from V6 vs V6.