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Screw991le · 09-06-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Eisenhower

CAFE loophole: Increase the vehicle's cost thereby limiting the total amount sold annually. I wonder how many people would be willing to pay upwards of $40k for a H/O Z28?

Poll, anyone???

Nope, because most people with 40K+ will buy a Vette. IMHO

Eisenhower · 09-06-2008, 11:08 AM

Oh yeah, forgot about the vette...

Vash · 09-06-2008, 11:35 AM

Ask the question. Will GM make a nice profit from it? If they can't then it's not gonna happen in this environment. Some of this super modding is best left to the aftermarket anyway. That way GM does not have to worry about cost of design, promotion, supply etc for what would be a small production run. A smart idea might be for GM to partner with an aftermarketer so they can just ship them SS's and the partner worries about all the mods and costs.

stovt001 · 09-07-2008, 01:22 AM

I'm thinking an ideal Z28 would be kinda like the NISMO 350Z. Lightweight wheels, optimized aerodynamics, etc. Include a few engine mods to get a slight hp bump, super performance tires, full reconfigurable performance/gauge display, lightweight Recaro seats, and lightening where feasible for a reasonable price.

*GTAHVIT* · 09-07-2008, 07:19 AM

^ that seems pretty reasonable. It take one.

Screw991le · 09-07-2008, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Vash

Ask the question. Will GM make a nice profit from it? If they can't then it's not gonna happen in this environment. Some of this super modding is best left to the aftermarket anyway. That way GM does not have to worry about cost of design, promotion, supply etc for what would be a small production run. A smart idea might be for GM to partner with an aftermarketer so they can just ship them SS's and the partner worries about all the mods and costs.

Like SLP did.

2010_5thgen · 09-07-2008, 12:28 PM

sounds like a pretty costly and timely camaro. painted on stripes??? i dont know anyone who paints on stripes from the factory and more. i think they did that in the day because they didnt have the kind of vinyl and decals we do now. sounds like a good car though. i like the more aggressive cam idea.

*radz28* · 09-07-2008, 04:57 PM

Regarding the super performance tires - why hasn't GM done this more? I know they're using PS2s on the 'Vettes and CTS-Vs (I think) so why have they been SO stuck to Goodyear? I get tired of reading about the GTR being that much better than Z06 but I wonder how much that has to do with tires, for example. I really think better performance tires should be in the mix, as suggested

Screw991le · 09-07-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by radz282003

Regarding the super performance tires - why hasn't GM done this more? I know they're using PS2s on the 'Vettes and CTS-Vs (I think) so why have they been SO stuck to Goodyear? I get tired of reading about the GTR being that much better than Z06 but I wonder how much that has to do with tires, for example. I really think better performance tires should be in the mix, as suggested

Marketing on Goodyears part. When they sell GM a $200 tire for $10. Goodyear takes the chance people will outfit their cars with OEM tires costing full retail when they need to be replaced.

stovt001 · 09-07-2008, 05:48 PM

Well it looks like we're getting Pirellis. Its a step up.

2010_5thgen · 09-07-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Screw991le

Marketing on Goodyears part. When they sell GM a $200 tire for $10. Goodyear takes the chance people will outfit their cars with OEM tires costing full retail when they need to be replaced.

im a big supporter of goodyear. its in my backyard and i know alot of people that work there. i wish they would put goodyears on more cars.

Screw991le · 09-07-2008, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

im a big supporter of goodyear. its in my backyard and i know alot of people that work there. i wish they would put goodyears on more cars.

Sorry to say, I am not. My Run-flats are hard and loud. My RSAs and F1 SC only lasted 1/2 of their adversited life.

TheClassicCarKid · 09-07-2008, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shank0668

here we go http://www.lingenfelter.com/C6LS3sSCIC122.htm

So...
For roughly 44,000 dollars you could have a camaro that killed GT500's?
This is sounding like the road a lot of the SS buyers should take instead of waiting for a Z28

Even if GM made a Z it wouldn't push 600 right?
Damn I love the LS3

2010_5thgen · 09-07-2008, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Screw991le

Sorry to say, I am not. My Run-flats are hard and loud. My RSAs and F1 SC only lasted 1/2 of their adversited life.

their a soft tire. thats why they didnt last long. i had pirelli p zeros on my car and i got 10,000miles out of them. id still buy them but they didnt last long. a sticky tire wont last long, a hard tire will have longer life. depends what you want , performance or long term. its hard to ride the line between those 2.

09-07-2008, 01:22 AM	#18
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	I'm thinking an ideal Z28 would be kinda like the NISMO 350Z. Lightweight wheels, optimized aerodynamics, etc. Include a few engine mods to get a slight hp bump, super performance tires, full reconfigurable performance/gauge display, lightweight Recaro seats, and lightening where feasible for a reasonable price. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

09-07-2008, 07:19 AM	#19
GTAHVIT Blessed Drives: 2013 Sonic RS MT Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Saint Augustine FL Posts: 28,444 View My Garage	^ that seems pretty reasonable. It take one. __________________ Click image to see build thread. PQ - "the love of cars. It's a boys first step toward manhood and a mans last hold on boyhood." Fbodfather - "We do not want to use the Z28 moniker on a car that does not deserve this hallowed name." The_Blur - "Let's not confuse competitors with equals."

09-07-2008, 12:28 PM	#21
2010_5thgen Drives: 2012 Porsche Panamera 4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,275 View My Garage	sounds like a pretty costly and timely camaro. painted on stripes??? i dont know anyone who paints on stripes from the factory and more. i think they did that in the day because they didnt have the kind of vinyl and decals we do now. sounds like a good car though. i like the more aggressive cam idea. __________________ Brixton Forged CM10 Wheels IN STOCK!!! RF7 SOON!!!! Camaro/M3/M4 wheels in stock High Gloss Titanium

09-07-2008, 04:57 PM	#22
radz28 Petro-sexual Drives: Ultra-Grin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Crazy Coast Posts: 15,192 View My Garage	Regarding the super performance tires - why hasn't GM done this more? I know they're using PS2s on the 'Vettes and CTS-Vs (I think) so why have they been SO stuck to Goodyear? I get tired of reading about the GTR being that much better than Z06 but I wonder how much that has to do with tires, for example. I really think better performance tires should be in the mix, as suggested __________________ '20 ZL1 Black "Fury" A10, PDR, Exposed CF Extractor Magnuson Magnum DI TVS2650R // RFBG // Soler 103 // TooHighPSI Port Injection // THPSI Billet Lid // FF // Katech Drop-In // PLM Heat Exchanger // ZLE Cradle bushings // BMR Chassis-Suspension Stuff // aFe Bars // Diode Dynamics LEDs // ACS Composites Guards // CF Dash // Aeroforce // tint // other stuffs

09-07-2008, 05:48 PM	#24
stovt001 Drives: 2006 Cobalt, 2004 Taurus wagon Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 3,812	Well it looks like we're getting Pirellis. Its a step up. __________________ "It's kind of fun to do the impossible" - Walt Disney There's a great big beautiful tomorrow shining at the end of every day There's a great big beautiful tomorrow Just a dream away

09-06-2008, 11:08 AM	#16
Eisenhower I drank what? Drives: DANGEROUSLY Join Date: May 2007 Location: check your back seat... Posts: 416	Oh yeah, forgot about the vette...

09-06-2008, 11:35 AM	#17
Vash Drives: 00 Blazer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 5,104	Ask the question. Will GM make a nice profit from it? If they can't then it's not gonna happen in this environment. Some of this super modding is best left to the aftermarket anyway. That way GM does not have to worry about cost of design, promotion, supply etc for what would be a small production run. A smart idea might be for GM to partner with an aftermarketer so they can just ship them SS's and the partner worries about all the mods and costs.

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