08-13-2009, 01:23 PM | #1 |
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First Experience with Zaino - Not Great!
With so many endorsements from members of this forum, I was convinced that Zaino would be the best product for my new black 2SS. So, I purchased the $84 kit that includes clay, Z7 wash, Z5 swirl remover, Z2 polish, ZFX accelerator and Z6 spray gloss enhancer. I purchased and received this prior to delivery of my car, and while waiting with great anticipation (you guys know what I mean) I read the Zaino instructions so many times that I almost memorized them. I finally got to use the system on the day that I took delivery. After refusing the complimentary dealer cleaning, I went home and began the whole Dawn, claybar, Z7 prep followed by the first coat of Z5 with ZFX accelerator.
Everything went very well until I started to remove the Z5. It was very difficult to remove. As instructed, I had used the material very sparingly (about 1/2 ounce) and waited over an hour. As I removed, it seemed that the material was not fully cured because it tended to smear somewhat. I finally got it all off with much rubbing and a little help from Z6. Then I was brave enough to try the Z2. Because of my Z5 experience I used even less Z2 with ZFX and applied very thin, but the result was the same. The material just would not set up. As per instructions I kept using the "finger drag" test to see if it was cured. After several hours, I gave up and started removing the residue. Again it was difficult, but obviously some of the polish had cured and remained on the surface because it did look and feel very nice. I called Zaino to see if perhaps I had a bad batch of ZFX or something, but they just insisted that I must be applying too much polish. I explained that I had used less than indicated in the instructions. Anyway, I decided to try again on the following weekend to apply another coat of Z2. This time I applied the polish on Friday evening and waited until Saturday to remove. I used only 1/3 ounce of Z2 with ZFX. It was so thin, I had difficulty detecting where polish was and was not. In spite of the thin coat and long waiting period, the material still would not pass the finger drag test. It tended to smear and was difficult to remove. I am in New Orleans and the humidity is always high, but I did this in an air conditioned garage. At one point I tried backing the car out and let it sit in the hot sun, but that didn’t work either. Again, after removing the residue the car looks and feels very good. I can definitely see the effects of the polish when I wash the car. However, I am now a shirt size larger after all of the rubbing and buffing that was necessary to use this product. And I know from reading other posts about Zaino that it is not supposed to be this difficult to remove. Has anyone else had a similar problem? Any suggestions? |
08-13-2009, 01:41 PM | #2 |
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I tried Zaino a few years back on my 2005 CTS and decided then and there is was more work than it was worth. Its a product for those addicted to polishing/waxing IMO.
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08-13-2009, 01:44 PM | #3 |
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that's weird...hard to give you any help cause I don't know exactly how you did it..my first time with it it went on fine and came off easily?? sorry
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08-13-2009, 01:50 PM | #4 |
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I will stick to Meguiars liquid wax.
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08-13-2009, 02:02 PM | #5 |
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I can't imagine the heat and humidity being much different between Houston and New Orleans.
When you mixed the ZFX with the Z5 and then with the Z2, how much polish did you put in the mixing bottle at a time? Once you added the correct amount of ZFX (4-5 drops per ounce of polish) to the polish in the mixing bottle and shook it for the 90 seconds, did you let it sit for 5 minutes and then shake it again before using it? I didn't have any issues with the ZFX-enabled Z5 and Z2 drying in under 30 minutes when I did my car a few weeks back. It was 95 degrees out and humid as hell that day too (I lost 3 pounds that day!).
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08-13-2009, 02:09 PM | #6 |
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What kind of towel are you using?
An orbital polisher will really cut down on the amount of elbow grease necessary and give a much 'deeper' looking shine. I use high quality microfiber bonnets and a $20 polisher from Home Depot. The Z-6 helps remove smears, too. I live in MS and can relate to the humidity issues. It definitely takes longer to set up in high humidity conditions (about an hour longer w/ ZFX for me). |
08-13-2009, 03:03 PM | #7 | |
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You're right - if it sets in less than 30 minutes in Houston, it should do same here. At this point I can only assume that my ZFX is not doing what it supposed to??? Oh, and I competely understand about the 3 lbs. |
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08-13-2009, 03:18 PM | #9 |
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Hmm, your first batch of ZFX enabled Z5 should have worked just fine. That's exactly what I did - put in an ounce of Z5 and 4 drops of ZFX. Did 2 coats with it and both dried in under 30 minutes.
I wonder if Zaino would be willing to send you a new bottle of ZFX in exchange for the one you got?
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08-13-2009, 03:55 PM | #10 | |
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When you added ZFX did you squeeze the bottle or did you let it drip by itself? There has been several people on here that squeezed the bottle and put in 3-4 times the amount needed. |
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08-13-2009, 03:55 PM | #11 | |
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The instruction sheet that they send out with Zaino is ancient. The towels they recommend now and sell on their site are microfiber (and VERY nice, btw). Still seems like something's not right with your ZFX though. Have you considered mixing up a small batch of Z2 or Z5 with ZFX and just let it sit and see if it will harden? |
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08-13-2009, 04:49 PM | #13 |
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It sounds like you put it on waaaay too thick,with ounce i put three coats on my Camaro and still had enough for a 4th and then some.Also the humidity in New Orleans is god awful , I would have waited at least 2 hours before trying to remove it.
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I assure you the towels are microfiber (polyester) and are superior to cotton in many ways, which I won't get into. http://www.autopia.org/forum/car-det...eleased-3.html |
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