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It probably will be $69k.....after dealers add on the extra $10k for BS markup.
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its going to be high, a ZL1 is mid $50ks almost everywhere... this is an even more exclusive Camaro, with a ton of R&D that you are going to be the one paying for, that has a hand built engine, etc... just a crate LS7 is almost $15k, that option alone on a stand SS would have it at almost $50k... I'm saying around $70k starting out
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This! Which equates to a VERY expensive toy. As I said before. Rarity and nastalgia. Thats what youre paying for UNLESS you're purely a camaro enthusiast. Then youre getting a REAL Z/28 Forget the high end parts ect. Im sure no more than 5% of those sold will ever see the track. Drag strip? Probably more so.
There's a sucker born every minute. Ill wait for him to buy it then sell it to me for a cheaper used price that's much more accommodating.
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1969 Z/28 $69k hmmmm you might be on to something Jonesy! Lol
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The higher mileage ones could be presumed to be impulse purchases where the original buyer sold his mother-in-law to get in one, or fell under some hardship and found themselves having to sell or trade it in for a more reasonable, budget friendly conveyance. Many of the low mileage ones were likely purchased as a "collectible" or "investment". As soon as reality set in about the collectibility or investment value, ZL1 collectors were dropping like flies. I think the same will happen here, once the initial hype of collectibility and investment value wear off, Z/28s will become available on the used market in "Cherry" condition for well below MSRP.
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When Scott said that it would be more expensive than the ZL1, I died a little inside. I expect $70k out the door.
Z/28s have always been affordable and I think this is a huge mistake, but it's just me. Yes, I get the brakes and the gears and the LS7 are incredible. But I'd rather pay $55k for a car with creature comforts which still performs like an absolute beast. That three seconds just isn't enough of a difference for me to justify such a hefty price tag for a stripped-down Camaro. I'm afraid they've priced themselves out of the market and no one will buy the Z, and that such a failure may make them decide to eliminate it for good. Long shot, I know, but a concern. The 1LE now seems to be what the Z/28 has always been, at least IMO. A great balance of street and track, affordable and able to be optioned up. I was planning on a 50th anniversary Z/28 in 2017, but if they continue this pricing through the 6th gen, I'll be getting a 50th anniversary SS/1LE.
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Can't really use retail pricing to determine retail cost in a car. I mean a trip to your favorite auto parts store will tell you that. Take a part any new car and try and replace all parts - a 30k car will probably set you back 100k or so. The LS7 retails anywhere from 12k-19k. Even places like Jegs/Summit have them as special order so the middleman price is say 10k. It sure as hell does not cost GM 10k to make any engine that is mass produced. Say maybe 6k from GM to build an LS7 crate. And even then i doubt it costs that much because how much more different is the LS7 to the LS3? (talking about building - all have 8 pistons, 8 rods, a crank, a block etc). With that I would think a LS7 can be built for about $4500! But there is also a gap left from no performance Corvettes and GM is looking to fill that void as well. To me the Z/28 will be a huge profit center. They will try and target the hardcore Vette guys as well and that easily places this car in the 60-70k range. But this car would still be profitable at the 50k range imo. The new design was spread out over all Camaros. LS7 development has already happened so it should be small tuning etc. Brake system once again done on the Vette. Coolers for brakes, rear end etc is race car stuff and probably borrowed from the GM teams. Even testing on the car - how much info came from the ZL1 to steer this car in the direction it did. Finally it was not built to a class. The COPO was built for certain classes and is a hell of a deal even at 86k. (try and build a stocker and get back to me). This car not being a class car means GM was just trying to fire off one last shot at Ford (and the world) saying "this is not even our fastest car - what do you have?" (implying the C7 Z cars will be monsters) Z/28 is a very cool car - but they did piss off some fans. Can't please everyone right? |
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They may have "pissed off" those who just want to drive around in a status symbol but real racers can't wait to get their hands on this thing. I think it's going to sell out quickly and you WON'T see a glut of them appearing on the used car market a few months after. I think we're witnessing the birth of a new legend.
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