06-28-2013, 05:09 PM | #211 |
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I've read through this thread and I still don't know an answer to my question.....is it "OK" to put 305/35/20 GY F1 tires on the rear of my 1LE so the tire set up mimics the ZL1?
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06-28-2013, 05:55 PM | #212 |
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Yes, it will be perfectly fine, but at the limit your car will push more in the corners with the 305's.
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It may look better (it's only adding around a 1/2 inch in width), but it will disturb handling some.
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06-28-2013, 08:21 PM | #216 |
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Also something that is going to shock the crap out of a lot of you guys on here, the 275-40-20 stock Pirelli vs the 285-35-20 Goodyears has only .3" less threadwidth than the 285s oh yeah hard to believe isn't it. Check out the specs. 285-35-19s check out a few different brand tires in this size and analyze the thread width (footprint) of the various brands and see how they differ even though the numbers (285-35-19) stay the same,http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=yes&tab=Specs
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06-29-2013, 09:53 AM | #217 | |
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GM did a great job polishing a turd with even the FE4 let alone the 1LE & ZL1. But I still think tuning out undesiresble chassis traits with stretched tires out back is a bit silly. |
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06-29-2013, 10:37 AM | #218 | ||
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At least in the past, sometimes all you had to do have done for that to make absolute sense was pay a little attention. I still remember having a clear "ah-ha . . . wow" moment shortly after fitting bias-belted tires to a car that had always had plain bias tires previously - slapping me upside the head would have been noticed only a little more strongly. It's almost too bad that that sort of opportunity is no longer reasonably available. Quote:
If you look a little further, you'll even find at least one 265/40-18 claiming to have more tread width than the exact same model tire in 285/35-18 (Michelin PSS). This kind of makes me wonder what criteria really exist for tread width claims, as the locations within the shoulder areas it "ends at" are really pretty vague. And where its importance stands relative to either nominal size or actual section dimensions. Norm |
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06-29-2013, 12:12 PM | #221 |
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I wish I could realistically justify some test-n-tune myself, but at $1000 or so per test just in the tires I'm afraid that that's not gonna happen. And I need a fresh set for track time since I had to repair one of my summer tires. They're still fine for street duty up to and including the occasional fairly enthusiastic 3rd gear run through stretches like the 140 to I-195 East ramp, but they absolutely do not belong on any car being used 20 minutes at a time at a still harder pace with some heavy, just-short-of-ABS braking repeatedly thrown in for good measure.
Best I can do is research, read about other peoples' experiences and thoughts (here and elsewhere), and crack open a couple of college-level tire books hoping for a little more technical insight. The direction taken for the 1LE's tuning is intriguing, though it was probably an easier step to get there from the SS models with different width front and rear wheels than it would be starting from cars that were always fitted "square" in terms of both tires and wheels. Once the argument concerning tire rotation goes away for any reason, it stops being an objection for all of the reasons you wouldn't rotate them. After that, there is the matter of appearance, which I mostly see as defining who sits where on the spectrum from pure functionality to pure form. Norm |
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Im not a track engineering expert by any means, but the 1LE works!
Supercar handling for $3,500? I bet the tires play a big part in this. My 2011 SS had a very modified suspension but the stock Pirellis. They never wore out while I had the car. Like Norm I have a practical streak. But my 1LE even with rubbery bushings and smaller sway bars would out handle my 2011 SS. I think Norm put his finger on it. Balance.
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