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Old 07-07-2009, 07:17 AM   #1
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Question CLUTCH: where is the slave cylinder?

on the SS-M6, is the slave cylinder INSIDE the bellhousing like the vette or is it outside the bellhousing like older Camaro's?
(I PRAY it is external since the brake and clutch SHARE one reservoir)

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:16 AM   #2
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39 views but nobody knows... i dont feel so ignorant now...
anyone know?
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Old 07-07-2009, 10:41 AM   #3
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Ok - no one else is answering so while I dont know, I'll speculate......

I had a Vette (C5) and had the opportunity to experience the joy of changing the clutch and slave - dropping the whole rear end, torque tube, trans, and back of engine.

If I remember correctly, the Camaro uses exactly the same transmission as the Vette in which case I would say that it will probably be the same as the Vette. They would have to re-design the trans to move the slave cylinder, in which case, it wouldnt be the same trans as the vette - it would be a different design, model, part #, etc.

So - IF they use the same trans in the Camaro and the Vette (I'm sure someone will correct me if they dont) and the slave is located internaly on the Vette, then it will also be internal on the Camaro. If its a different trans in the Camaro then there is a chance that they used a little more common sense designing it!


------ on a side note..........does the Camaro have a torque tube like the vette, or just a naked driveshaft? (just thought of this as I was typing this)
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:43 AM   #4
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Thanks.
i cant imagine that they are the "same"... doesnt the vette have a transaxle in the back?
engine in front and only a transaxle in back? coulda swore i saw pix of it somewhere but i dont own a vette.

the Camaro is DEFINATELY a FWD mounted transmission with an open driveshaft. (non articulating because of the solid mount differential)

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anybody else can set me straight?
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Old 07-07-2009, 12:31 PM   #5
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on the SS-M6, is the slave cylinder INSIDE the bellhousing like the vette or is it outside the bellhousing like older Camaro's?
(I PRAY it is external since the brake and clutch SHARE one reservoir)

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Old 07-07-2009, 12:53 PM   #6
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That SUX unless GM figured out how to keep the clutch dust from getting into the system like it does on vettes.
With the clutch and brake fluid combined in on resevoir it coups spell BAD results.
My clutch has already hung open once which is a sign of contamination.
Hmmmmmm.
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Old 07-07-2009, 02:57 PM   #7
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Its In you car Manuel, And it said that "clutch and brake fluid combined in on reservoir" and yes it dos spell BAD results, One more thing to redo.
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Old 07-07-2009, 03:12 PM   #8
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Its In you car Manuel, And it said that "clutch and brake fluid combined in on reservoir" and yes it dos spell BAD results, One more thing to redo.

i did see in the manual that they are one reservoir... but i didnt see where it said that the slave was INSIDE the bellhousing.

If they knew that contamination was a problem why in the world would they purposely allow the contamination to freely flow into the BRAKE system of all places?
SURELY the contamination problem is fixed????
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Old 07-07-2009, 08:19 PM   #9
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i did see in the manual that they are one reservoir... but i didnt see where it said that the slave was INSIDE the bellhousing.

If they knew that contamination was a problem why in the world would they purposely allow the contamination to freely flow into the BRAKE system of all places?
SURELY the contamination problem is fixed????
How does the contamination make it into the clutch slave to begin with? I would think if dust could get in hydraulic fluid would get out. I'm not completely familiar with the system used on the Camaro but normally there is a dust boot on the actuator rod of the slave cylinder to stop dust from damaging the seals.
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How does the contamination make it into the clutch slave to begin with? I would think if dust could get in hydraulic fluid would get out. I'm not completely familiar with the system used on the Camaro but normally there is a dust boot on the actuator rod of the slave cylinder to stop dust from damaging the seals.
i didnt understand it when i read it either.... but watch this:

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Old 07-07-2009, 09:27 PM   #11
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i didnt understand it when i read it either.... but watch this:

Interesting presentation but there are a lot of holes in his theory.
I'm sure i read a GM TSB on clutch fluid discoloration being because of the use of carbon black in the seals and that it would not affect clutch operation. Haven't been able to find it yet but still looking.
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Interesting presentation but there are a lot of holes in his theory.
I'm sure i read a GM TSB on clutch fluid discoloration being because of the use of carbon black in the seals and that it would not affect clutch operation. Haven't been able to find it yet but still looking.
Thanks for the info.
he does say that it was tested to be clutch dust... and if its on YouTube it MUST be fact... right?
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Its In you car Manuel, And it said that "clutch and brake fluid combined in on reservoir" and yes it dos spell BAD results, One more thing to redo.
what the hell? what are they trying to do, make problems worse than with 4th gen fbody's?
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Thanks for the info.
he does say that it was tested to be clutch dust... and if its on YouTube it MUST be fact... right?
Haha you know it....something else i found on a corvette forum noted that alot of people would drain fluid from the slave to have it tested and the fluid would run down the bell housing and be contaminated at that point. In short bad sample.

This issue definately is something i'm going to keep an eye on once i get my car tho.
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