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ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 03:42 PM

Anyone put a big block (454, 502, 572) in their Gen5?

Im playing with the idea of a cam, 416 stroker, or both. Then Started thinking, Why not drop in a crate 454 or 502........

driyac · 04-20-2013, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ebaugh1990

Anyone put a big block (454, 502, 572) in their Gen5?

Im playing with the idea of a cam, 416 stroker, or both. Then Started thinking, Why not drop in a crate 454 or 502........

Some have dropped in lsx454's

Also there was one on here who dropped in a 500 tall deck. Honestly a big block just will not fit correctly.

Synner · 04-20-2013, 03:49 PM

An actual big block would be a 50 year regression in technology and performance. Sleeve an LS if all you want is a cubic inch number.

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by driyac

Some have dropped in lsx454's

Also there was one on here who dropped in a 500 tall deck. Honestly a big block just will not fit correctly.

Sounds good, and I also thought about the fitment. Thanks for the info

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Originally Posted by Synner

An actual big block would be a 50 year regression in technology and performance. Sleeve an LS if all you want is a cubic inch number.

Why is this? I'm just curious. I'm not familiar with the reason. I am looking for a high cube N\A engine. Im obsessed with classic muscle cars but I enjoy the styling of modern muscle cars. My favorite concept of Classic American Muscle is BIG @SS Engines.

litle88 · 04-20-2013, 04:01 PM

I would get a junkyard aluminum 5.3 and send it to ERL and then get the cubes your looking for. All you'll need is the rotating assembly and that's gonna be where the $$$ goes lol.

black79ta · 04-20-2013, 04:02 PM

yeah it might be, but 800 hp from a NA pump gas bbc...sweet...i say go for it!!

litle88 · 04-20-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Synner

An actual big block would be a 50 year regression in technology and performance. Sleeve an LS if all you want is a cubic inch number.

Agreed, from durability, strength, cylinder heads LSX's are more advanced than the 1st n 2nd gen big/small blocks.

Nightmare2012 · 04-20-2013, 04:04 PM

The technology that goes into modern engines is much more advanced now then 50 years ago call tsp about your goals and they will give you a price quote on a crate block any number of cubes you may desire with modern day technology is a more intellectual choice.

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

I would get a junkyard aluminum 5.3 and send it to ERL and then get the cubes your looking for. All you'll need is the rotating assembly and that's gonna be where the $$$ goes lol.

I hear ya, Ive been torn between so many different ideas.

Also thinking about buying a 2013 or 2014 Challenger SRT8, the 392 can be stroked to 447 and be a reliable DD. My ultimate goal is to have each of the big three.

A modern Camaro with a 400+ Cube engine n/a
A modern Challenger with a 447 stroker n/a
A 1967 Shelby GT500E

EDIT:
Call it a Mid Life crisis at the age of 22 lol. I guess because of all the EPA crap out there today, I want to be selfish and have one of each of the big muscle cars and keep them for a very long time. Not for them to be worth a lot of money one day, but for me to enjoy them today and in the future.

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Originally Posted by black79ta

yeah it might be, but 800 hp from a NA pump gas bbc...sweet...i say go for it!!

I agree

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by litle88

Agreed, from durability, strength, cylinder heads LSX's are more advanced than the 1st n 2nd gen big/small blocks.

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Originally Posted by Nightmare2012

The technology that goes into modern engines is much more advanced now then 50 years ago call tsp about your goals and they will give you a price quote on a crate block any number of cubes you may desire with modern day technology is a more intellectual choice.

Thanks GUYS!!!

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 04:38 PM

With going above 450 cubes, would I need to have headers with 2" primaries? Or are the 1 7/8" more than enough?

AG454 · 04-20-2013, 05:25 PM

I just had a LSX 454 put in. It has low end torque like a old big block 454, but drives like a stock LS3 with a big cam on the highway. I have 1-7/8" ARH headers on it, don't think you need 2" headers, but they would not hurt.

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AG383

I just had a LSX 454 put in. It has low end torque like a old big block 454, but drives like a stock LS3 with a big cam on the highway. I have 1-7/8" ARH headers on it, don't think you need 2" headers, but they would not hurt.

Thanks for the info! Thats awesome bro, I just love big Cube Engines man

ebaugh1990 · 04-20-2013, 05:32 PM

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-420-tsp...ort-block.aspx

with that 454 above, I could swap over all my components, liek the heads and everything else?

I also wonder, is there a way to get the Chrome Accessory covers for the new engines we have?

this is what Im talking about

04-20-2013, 04:01 PM	#5
litle88 V8 Lounge member #2 Drives: 2001 Ws6 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Burbank,IL Posts: 6,373	I would get a junkyard aluminum 5.3 and send it to ERL and then get the cubes your looking for. All you'll need is the rotating assembly and that's gonna be where the $$$ goes lol. __________________ 2001 ws6, 40k miles, Ls3 416 stroker, short block built by PER the rest by me. LPE Ls3 heads milled to 12-1 comp, FAST 102, NW 102, kooks 2", dual DMH cutouts, Magnaflow C/B, BTR cam + springs. Full UMI suspension.

04-20-2013, 04:02 PM	#6
black79ta Drives: 79 transam with 582cid dart motor Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: missouri Posts: 529 View My Garage	yeah it might be, but 800 hp from a NA pump gas bbc...sweet...i say go for it!! __________________ 2010 Camaro (inferno orange, 2SS, RS and such) cat backs, catch can, CAI on the way 79 Transam, 582 cid dart motor 779hp 315's out back 40spline gdaxles tko tranny

04-20-2013, 05:25 PM	#12
AG454 I am not "Fast & Furious" Drives: 2010 Camaro LSX454 1LE Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Greeley Colorado Posts: 1,040 View My Garage	I just had a LSX 454 put in. It has low end torque like a old big block 454, but drives like a stock LS3 with a big cam on the highway. I have 1-7/8" ARH headers on it, don't think you need 2" headers, but they would not hurt. __________________ The day I take a bend too fast Judgement that could be my last I'll be wiped right off the slate Don't wait up 'cause I'll be late, I'll be late

04-20-2013, 03:49 PM	#3
Synner Drives: cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: Oversneeze Posts: 4,545	An actual big block would be a 50 year regression in technology and performance. Sleeve an LS if all you want is a cubic inch number.

04-20-2013, 04:04 PM	#8
Nightmare2012 come find out;) Drives: stockish 2012 camaro ss Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: speed county Posts: 2,166 View My Garage	The technology that goes into modern engines is much more advanced now then 50 years ago call tsp about your goals and they will give you a price quote on a crate block any number of cubes you may desire with modern day technology is a more intellectual choice.