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ADM PERFORMANCE · 10-29-2012, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PQ

What exactly is it?

My car will boost at 9 pounds but I can't really so that because I'm already dropping to 48 psi fuel pressure at 7 pounds.

It is a replacement fuel pump controller plug and play.

No core required.

JANNETTYRACING · 10-29-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ADM PERFORMANCE

It is a replacement fuel pump controller plug and play.

No core required.

How is this Plug and Play

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NOTE: Due to the increase in fuel pressure your car will need retuned

Aecannon1 · 11-13-2012, 10:23 PM

I am tuning my 3.6l Kenny Bell with IDE 80# injectors, BAP and ZLI fuel pump. I'm going to push the car to 14psi on the first run and try to creep from there to 18psi. My car has a fully built 408 with 9.5:1 compression and 360cfm at .600 lift heads (built by CMB motorsports....these heads rock). Also the cam is a Thunder Racing TruTorque Stage 5. The lobes release a lot of pressure/air/fuel enough to lower the static compression just enough to stay on pump gas to about 18psi.

My weaknesses:
Pump (potentially, no ones pushed this combo that hard)
Clutch (ACT Heavy Duty Street/Strip)
Transmission (6speed) I do not launch the car. I like to road and street race
Rear Diff

I'll post numbers, including AFR's and fuel pressure when I get it tuned on Friday.

Aecannon1 · 11-13-2012, 10:35 PM

Oh yeah and... WERD!

MARINE1991 · 11-13-2012, 10:48 PM

would it be worth installing a ZL1 fuel pump with a SLP 2300 and LS3 conversion...

Aecannon1 · 11-13-2012, 11:58 PM

Nope. Just make sure your injectors are 60# or don't push past about 600rwhp. Numbers in pressure this and AF's that do matter. Truth is though, real world testing, experience and longevity with the combination of parts is more sound than any numbers.

Moral is: If it's been done, tried, proven and true. You can do it too

JANNETTYRACING · 11-14-2012, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aecannon1

I am tuning my 3.6l Kenny Bell with IDE 80# injectors, BAP and ZLI fuel pump. I'm going to push the car to 14psi on the first run and try to creep from there to 18psi. My car has a fully built 408 with 9.5:1 compression and 360cfm at .600 lift heads (built by CMB motorsports....these heads rock). Also the cam is a Thunder Racing TruTorque Stage 5. The lobes release a lot of pressure/air/fuel enough to lower the static compression just enough to stay on pump gas to about 18psi.

My weaknesses:
Pump (potentially, no ones pushed this combo that hard)
Clutch (ACT Heavy Duty Street/Strip)
Transmission (6speed) I do not launch the car. I like to road and street race
Rear Diff

I'll post numbers, including AFR's and fuel pressure when I get it tuned on Friday.

I say this Respectfully!

This will be a colossal waist of a dyno session, your dead before you get started.

An LPE Twin pump will be hard pressed to Keep up if this combo makes what I think it will make.

Ted.

partymn · 11-14-2012, 07:41 PM

Well I changed my stock pump to a ZL1 pump this morning. By myself with a jack and jack stands it took 3 and a half hours and it was no fun at all. The answer to the OP question is no. If you are going to take the time to change your pump, go big with the LPE dual the first time so that you dont have to do it again later if you decide to go with more power.

G8 GXP · 11-16-2012, 10:57 AM

<--- Has ID850 injectors, ZL1 pump, and KB BAP on low setting, and plan on pushing 650+rwhp, (probably already there, but haven't gotten a dyno pull yet) and my fueling is fine.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-16-2012, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by G8 GXP

<--- Has ID850 injectors, ZL1 pump, and KB BAP on low setting, and plan on pushing 650+rwhp, (probably already there, but haven't gotten a dyno pull yet) and my fueling is fine.

Let's see,
You have not been to the dyno.
You think you Probably have 650 RWHP
You have never had a fuel pressure gauge on it on the dyno
and Your fueling is Fine.

REALLY????

Thank you for your recommendation, Let us know how the dyno session goes and PLEASE LOG FUEL PRESSURE.

G8 GXP · 11-16-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Let's see,
You have not been to the dyno.
You think you Probably have 650 RWHP
You have never had a fuel pressure gauge on it on the dyno
and Your fueling is Fine.

REALLY????

Thank you for your recommendation, Let us know how the dyno session goes and PLEASE LOG FUEL PRESSURE.

The guy that had my TT kit on his GXP with a stock cam, made 630ish @ 8lbs, I have an aftermarket cam and are running 8lbs..... You do the math... I said "probably" but I don't see why I wouldn't be.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-16-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by G8 GXP

The guy that had my TT kit on his GXP with a stock cam, made 630ish @ 8lbs, I have an aftermarket cam and are running 8lbs..... You do the math... I said "probably" but I don't see why I wouldn't be.

Math is My Life, and I did the Math on the ZL-1 Pump, it is great in a ZL-1 with the right controller up to 725 RWHP Manual Trans 675 Auto

Not as good in other vehicles with different controllers.

Please Keep an Eye on your Fuel Pressure, I wouldn't want anything to happen to your engine.

Ted.

Aecannon1 · 11-18-2012, 08:30 PM

I'll tune the 3.6 with the ZL1 pump until I see FP drop badly. If it get's to the point where I need an Aeromotive In Tank. I'll do it. But since all my dyno time costs me nothing, I'm way ok with doing it twice, three times etc.. I like the experience of learning what the ecu/combo responds to. I know for great big power I'll need the Aeromotive, so another session after tuning with the ZL-1. Bahhh, I've got time to waste.

ss/rs-matt · 12-12-2012, 06:09 PM

Bump!
So has anyone actually logged fuel pressure before and after installing ZL1 pump?

11-14-2012, 07:41 PM	#50
partymn Drives: 2014 1ss 1LE Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Goose Creek, SC Posts: 878 View My Garage	Well I changed my stock pump to a ZL1 pump this morning. By myself with a jack and jack stands it took 3 and a half hours and it was no fun at all. The answer to the OP question is no. If you are going to take the time to change your pump, go big with the LPE dual the first time so that you dont have to do it again later if you decide to go with more power. __________________ 2014 1SS 1LE, bone stock for now.

11-16-2012, 10:57 AM	#51
G8 GXP Drives: Pontiac G8 GXP Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 32	<--- Has ID850 injectors, ZL1 pump, and KB BAP on low setting, and plan on pushing 650+rwhp, (probably already there, but haven't gotten a dyno pull yet) and my fueling is fine. __________________ 2009 M6 G8 GXP Twin 6265 Precision Turbos, TSP 231/236 cam ID850s, ZL1 Fuel Pump, KB BAP Spohn Trailing Arms/Toe Links, BMR Cradle/Diff Bushings Widened GXP wheels/295 tires, Custom 3" Exhaust 710rwhp/742rwtq

12-12-2012, 06:09 PM	#56
ss/rs-matt Drives: 2015 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: California Posts: 1,731	Bump! So has anyone actually logged fuel pressure before and after installing ZL1 pump? __________________ "Want to know whats cooler than your murdered out Honda Civic? ...Any Audi." Daniel Tosh

11-13-2012, 10:23 PM	#45
Aecannon1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS (RS Package) LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 114	I am tuning my 3.6l Kenny Bell with IDE 80# injectors, BAP and ZLI fuel pump. I'm going to push the car to 14psi on the first run and try to creep from there to 18psi. My car has a fully built 408 with 9.5:1 compression and 360cfm at .600 lift heads (built by CMB motorsports....these heads rock). Also the cam is a Thunder Racing TruTorque Stage 5. The lobes release a lot of pressure/air/fuel enough to lower the static compression just enough to stay on pump gas to about 18psi. My weaknesses: Pump (potentially, no ones pushed this combo that hard) Clutch (ACT Heavy Duty Street/Strip) Transmission (6speed) I do not launch the car. I like to road and street race Rear Diff I'll post numbers, including AFR's and fuel pressure when I get it tuned on Friday.

11-13-2012, 10:35 PM	#46
Aecannon1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS (RS Package) LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 114	Oh yeah and... WERD!

11-13-2012, 10:48 PM	#47
MARINE1991 Drives: COTW 8/29/11 2010 CAMARO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: HOMELESS Posts: 10,010 View My Garage	would it be worth installing a ZL1 fuel pump with a SLP 2300 and LS3 conversion...

11-13-2012, 11:58 PM	#48
Aecannon1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS (RS Package) LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 114	Nope. Just make sure your injectors are 60# or don't push past about 600rwhp. Numbers in pressure this and AF's that do matter. Truth is though, real world testing, experience and longevity with the combination of parts is more sound than any numbers. Moral is: If it's been done, tried, proven and true. You can do it too

11-18-2012, 08:30 PM	#55
Aecannon1 Drives: 2011 Camaro SS (RS Package) LS3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 114	I'll tune the 3.6 with the ZL1 pump until I see FP drop badly. If it get's to the point where I need an Aeromotive In Tank. I'll do it. But since all my dyno time costs me nothing, I'm way ok with doing it twice, three times etc.. I like the experience of learning what the ecu/combo responds to. I know for great big power I'll need the Aeromotive, so another session after tuning with the ZL-1. Bahhh, I've got time to waste.