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Redrocker1958 · 01-23-2016, 02:01 PM

Granted it's been a few yrs since I bought a new set of SB headers..but not so long ago in a far far away land I remember one could buy anywhere a set of headers for $300. Or less..now fast forward to a far distant future aka 15 yrs later I get me a 6 year old Camaro....and I see from these companies on cam5 and all over the net summit..jegs..ect.." Get this great great chepest price ever. Set of headers...and they start @ $1500. and only go up from there...now I'm no rocket scientist ..but its still 4 tuned tubes into one collector..yes there is a cat or cat delete pipe ( in some cases)and a threaded nut for o2 sensor added.but at the tune of $1200 plus for a cat n couple nutz...really..can anyone shed light on this travesty....I mean damn I gotta get a loan for simple new set of headers really...

rickyrocket · 01-23-2016, 02:04 PM

yea nuckin futz

Ryanbabz71 · 01-23-2016, 02:26 PM

Look at stainless power, right around $800

hesster · 01-23-2016, 02:36 PM

I run the Stainless Power and had them ceramic coated. They fit perfectly and were a "breeze" to install.

Olddudesrule · 01-23-2016, 02:54 PM

Welcome to the free market. Don't know many things that are cheaper today then 15 years ago, except gas!!

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You can get a decent set of headers for under $800, but the best quality, fit and finish will run you $1500+ for cats and all.....1st world problems, brother. They are a bitch.

Chris-10 · 01-23-2016, 03:13 PM

I thought the same thing when I bought mine.
I got set of Doug Thorely LT for under $700. They sound great and the finish looks like the day I put them on ( a couple years ago).

ChrisBlair · 01-23-2016, 03:27 PM

Hi guys.

The exact same set of tubular headers I bought in 1998 for almost 300 dollars on the penny- same company, same collector, flange size- very thick flanges actually, and primary size- are still only $545 dollars, US. This is free-market prices in action

No, it is not the same price. But it is comparable, and headers should be cheap.

For some background, those 300 dollar headers were designed to fit the car by using a 1970 GS455 as a "model" to fit a custom header build, and then the data was fed into a PC to translate it to CAD. That's a fairly custom-fit, guaranteed-to-work-on-the car job, and at 300 bucks then/545 bucks now, a good deal. Cheap. Not expensive. And that is from a place that specializes in Buick. Not exactly a high-volume business, for popular cars.

Unless the 1500 dollar headers come with a whole bunch of bells and whistles, that's expensive in my opinion. Yes sure, needs bungs for 02 sensors etc. These are known factors in 2016. It should not add a thousand dollars.

Then consider that all I did to them was use Eastwood Tool Co. high-temp manifold paint on the raw header,and bake them per instructions in an industrial oven and they still have not rusted out, on a car that was daily driven May-November for over a dozen years, they are good value, too. That's much longer than raw headers are expected to last.

supergt99 · 01-23-2016, 05:29 PM

I bought speed engineering headers from a vendor on this site for 250. The quality was good and they fit with 0 issues. Couldn't be happier.

2010reddevil · 01-23-2016, 05:47 PM

^Werd......same here. Speed Engineering headers were on mine with amazing fitment. Build quality top notch and all for $355 shipped with o/r connection pipes and O2 sensor extensions.

stock block · 01-23-2016, 05:51 PM

there are a few mild steel headers that are real inexpensive [$400 to $600) ,BBK makes a few and so does pacesetter ,most guys will say there junk ,but the guys that say that are mostly just butthurt that they payed $1500+ ,

stock block · 01-23-2016, 05:54 PM

for under 400 them SE look good to and already two guys in this thread say there amazing fitment

Redrocker1958 · 01-23-2016, 06:19 PM

Good to hear there is a couple company's out there with real prices...its not just headers..since I have owned my SS Camaro I am staggered buy the cost of everything and I mean everything..I maybe just a low budget builder..and I have been customizing cars for decades now..but I know when there sticking it to me.( tring anyway)
Thx for the input and resources..DONT be afraid to tell the
Ppl what you think..or we will never get a break in our passion for our hobbies

blakjak55 · 01-23-2016, 06:32 PM

No, you're not wrong but as stated, free market, inflation, supply and demand. People will pay it so that's what they'll sell for. I remember picking up Hooker Super Comp LT's for a small block for $100, and that was spending some money.

The Speed Engineering looks enticing.

jos3ywales · 01-23-2016, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supergt99

I bought speed engineering headers from a vendor on this site for 250. The quality was good and they fit with 0 issues. Couldn't be happier.

who did you get yours from I am looking at getting a set for my '10 SS

01-23-2016, 02:01 PM	#1
Redrocker1958 Obsessive camaro disorder Drives: 2010 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA. Posts: 943 View My Garage	Headers INSANE prices Granted it's been a few yrs since I bought a new set of SB headers..but not so long ago in a far far away land I remember one could buy anywhere a set of headers for $300. Or less..now fast forward to a far distant future aka 15 yrs later I get me a 6 year old Camaro....and I see from these companies on cam5 and all over the net summit..jegs..ect.." Get this great great chepest price ever. Set of headers...and they start @ $1500. and only go up from there...now I'm no rocket scientist ..but its still 4 tuned tubes into one collector..yes there is a cat or cat delete pipe ( in some cases)and a threaded nut for o2 sensor added.but at the tune of $1200 plus for a cat n couple nutz...really..can anyone shed light on this travesty....I mean damn I gotta get a loan for simple new set of headers really... __________________ 2010 2ss/rs

01-23-2016, 02:04 PM	#2
rickyrocket Drives: 2015 blk 1 SS Join Date: May 2012 Location: Coventry RI Posts: 1,309	yea nuckin futz __________________ 15 1 SS

01-23-2016, 02:26 PM	#3
Ryanbabz71 Drives: 2018 Hyper Blue 1SS 1LE Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Brownsburg, Indiana Posts: 6,231 View My Garage	Look at stainless power, right around $800 __________________ Ryan * 2018 1SS 1LE Camaro Hyper Blue Metallic Car Build: http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...0#post10049680

01-23-2016, 02:54 PM	#5
Olddudesrule Resident nomad Drives: 2014 Summit White 1SS/1LE Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,765	Welcome to the free market. Don't know many things that are cheaper today then 15 years ago, except gas!!. You can get a decent set of headers for under $800, but the best quality, fit and finish will run you $1500+ for cats and all.....1st world problems, brother. They are a bitch. __________________ Sold: 2007 Z06 2002 Viper GTS/ACR 2003 Z06 1965 FFR Cobra 2012 Nissan 370Z ADM LSA Stage II, Roto-Fab CAI, Kooks LTH/HFC's, Phastek CC, ported TB, Mishimoto radiator and oil cooler, BC Racing ER Series CO's, JPSS 32mm Black Magic rear bar, JPSS front inserts, R1 Concepts Premier slotted rotors/Goodrich SS lines, Schroth ASM harness, MGW flatstick, Brey-Krause HB, Tuned by NicD, at Cordes Performance Racing.

01-23-2016, 03:13 PM	#6
Chris-10 Drives: 2ss/rs vr 6m Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: New Port Richey,fl Posts: 2,831	I thought the same thing when I bought mine. I got set of Doug Thorely LT for under $700. They sound great and the finish looks like the day I put them on ( a couple years ago). __________________ My build thread.click the pic. COTW 10/24/11

01-23-2016, 02:36 PM	#4
hesster Drives: '10 C5 SS, '77 Bandit T/A Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Michigan Posts: 638 View My Garage	I run the Stainless Power and had them ceramic coated. They fit perfectly and were a "breeze" to install.

01-23-2016, 03:27 PM	#7
ChrisBlair Buick 455 Fan Drives: 1970 Buick, 2012 1SS LS3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Boston MA Posts: 5,957	Hi guys. The exact same set of tubular headers I bought in 1998 for almost 300 dollars on the penny- same company, same collector, flange size- very thick flanges actually, and primary size- are still only $545 dollars, US. This is free-market prices in action No, it is not the same price. But it is comparable, and headers should be cheap. For some background, those 300 dollar headers were designed to fit the car by using a 1970 GS455 as a "model" to fit a custom header build, and then the data was fed into a PC to translate it to CAD. That's a fairly custom-fit, guaranteed-to-work-on-the car job, and at 300 bucks then/545 bucks now, a good deal. Cheap. Not expensive. And that is from a place that specializes in Buick. Not exactly a high-volume business, for popular cars. Unless the 1500 dollar headers come with a whole bunch of bells and whistles, that's expensive in my opinion. Yes sure, needs bungs for 02 sensors etc. These are known factors in 2016. It should not add a thousand dollars. Then consider that all I did to them was use Eastwood Tool Co. high-temp manifold paint on the raw header,and bake them per instructions in an industrial oven and they still have not rusted out, on a car that was daily driven May-November for over a dozen years, they are good value, too. That's much longer than raw headers are expected to last. __________________

01-23-2016, 05:29 PM	#8
supergt99 Drives: 2013 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: earth Posts: 288	I bought speed engineering headers from a vendor on this site for 250. The quality was good and they fit with 0 issues. Couldn't be happier.

01-23-2016, 05:47 PM	#9
2010reddevil Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Victory Red 6M Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Gulf Coast, TX Posts: 1,424	^Werd......same here. Speed Engineering headers were on mine with amazing fitment. Build quality top notch and all for $355 shipped with o/r connection pipes and O2 sensor extensions. __________________ 2011 2SS 6A Red Jewel Metallic, Vararam Tune CAI, Magnaflow 3" Competition c/b, Speed Engineering 1-7/8 LT's, Circle D 5C, M/T 275/40R20 S/S, HPTuners tune by Ryan@GPI 12.3 @ 112 ACM as of 12/22/19 Gone on 12/28/19 R I P 2010 2SS 6M Victory Red/Black (old ride) CAI intake, Speed Engineering 1 7/8" LT's, X4 base tune, Flowmaster Outlaw axle-back. 12.6 @ 115 SAR as of 9/19/15 Gone but never forgotten.

01-23-2016, 05:51 PM	#10
stock block Drives: 2015 zl1 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Calgary Posts: 200	there are a few mild steel headers that are real inexpensive [$400 to $600) ,BBK makes a few and so does pacesetter ,most guys will say there junk ,but the guys that say that are mostly just butthurt that they payed $1500+ ,

01-23-2016, 05:54 PM	#11
stock block Drives: 2015 zl1 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Calgary Posts: 200	for under 400 them SE look good to and already two guys in this thread say there amazing fitment

01-23-2016, 06:19 PM	#12
Redrocker1958 Obsessive camaro disorder Drives: 2010 2ss/rs Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA. Posts: 943 View My Garage	Good to hear there is a couple company's out there with real prices...its not just headers..since I have owned my SS Camaro I am staggered buy the cost of everything and I mean everything..I maybe just a low budget builder..and I have been customizing cars for decades now..but I know when there sticking it to me.( tring anyway) Thx for the input and resources..DONT be afraid to tell the Ppl what you think..or we will never get a break in our passion for our hobbies __________________ 2010 2ss/rs

01-23-2016, 06:32 PM	#13
blakjak55 drinks virgil's Drives: 2010 2SS M6 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Missouri Posts: 448	No, you're not wrong but as stated, free market, inflation, supply and demand. People will pay it so that's what they'll sell for. I remember picking up Hooker Super Comp LT's for a small block for $100, and that was spending some money. The Speed Engineering looks enticing. __________________ 2010 2SS/RS M6 - CAI Intake - Borla Stinger - VTC - 3.91's Eibach Sways - LG ZR28's - BMR Springs - 285/35 Squared