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jake2212 · 03-14-2014, 12:46 AM

okay, so i have been trying to cram all this different information into my head about what i need vs. what i think i need to put a magnuson blower on my car. So i am turning to you guys here for help. what all do i need to have a maggie on my car running reliably and smoothly? I plan on staying at the 6psi stock boost level and this car is not a dedicated drag car. It is a street driven car.

current mods are as follows:
CAI
headers
ported TB(92mm)
Lingenfelter GT9 cam+ls3 conversion
1le sways
pfadt tie rods/trailing arms
zl1 wheels with michelin PSS(for everyone that will say "get better tires")

Now, I'm buying a magnuson and I want to know what else i should get so i dont end up on the side of the road pissed off at my broken down car. thank you for your help

axis · 03-14-2014, 01:03 AM

You don't NEED any of the that, except maybe the CAI. Everything else falls under the "nice to have" category. All the PD blowers are made to be able to install and go. Changing over to the LS3 lifters is always a good idea since the AFM lifters are known to fail on stock cars. They aren't a "must have" though. Then it gets into, since you're already changing lifters, it isn't that much more to install a cam. Who makes a 92mm TB? BBK makes a 95 but I haven't heard of a 92

jake2212 · 03-14-2014, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by axis

You don't NEED any of the that, except maybe the CAI. Everything else falls under the "nice to have" category. All the PD blowers are made to be able to install and go. Changing over to the LS3 lifters is always a good idea since the AFM lifters are known to fail on stock cars. They aren't a "must have" though. Then it gets into, since you're already changing lifters, it isn't that much more to install a cam. Who makes a 92mm TB? BBK makes a 95 but I haven't heard of a 92

those are my current mods. also my bad, i was under the impression the vmax TB was 92mm.

axis · 03-14-2014, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jake2212

those are my current mods. also my bad, i was under the impression the vmax TB was 92mm.

Sorry, missed the line saying those were your current mods. Thought that's what you thought you needed.

Looks like you're good to go then. The LS3 conversion uses the LS3 lifters. What else could you possibly want? As long as you get a complete maggie set up and not a tuner version, you should be good to go. Who's going to tune it? That's probably one of the most important aspects.

Jchaluja · 03-14-2014, 05:11 AM

You need a good tune and I would stay away from a converter in case you wanted one

dan0617 · 03-14-2014, 05:45 AM

ZL1/ADM combo and maybe a BAP, or a twin pump setup.

JRE 2800 stall converter. Nice and tight for normal driving.

Rear cradle bushings

Scrap the cats if you can

Wideband setup

Boost gauge setup

Drag radials and a rear drag alignment

BooSSted · 03-14-2014, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dan0617

ZL1/ADM combo and maybe a BAP, or a twin pump setup.

JRE 2800 stall converter. Nice and tight for normal driving.

Rear cradle bushings

Scrap the cats if you can

Wideband setup

Boost gauge setup

Drag radials and a rear drag alignment

These things will finish off your current mods very nicely! Big emphasis on fuel!

casper sc/1ss/rs · 03-14-2014, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BooSSted

These things will finish off your current mods very nicely! Big emphasis on fuel!

If he stays at 6psi the stock pump will handle that just fine.

BooSSted · 03-14-2014, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by casper sc/1ss/rs

If he stays at 6psi the stock pump will handle that just fine.

He's already cammed ..

LS7 427 · 03-14-2014, 08:59 AM

With what you have already and considering your "need vs want" criteria for 6psi, this is my opinion...

NEED
- Maggie TVS2300 full kit (not tuner kit)
- A good dyno or email tune (motor and transmission)

WANT
- Wideband gauge
- Boost gauge

Three comments
- You won't need to address fuel at 6 psi boost (Your tune will confirm that or tell you otherwise)
- Should you experience wheel hop, your trailing arms will help but you might consider differential and cradle bushings. I would address that issue if it arises later.
- Your existing mods make an excellent platform for the addition of the Maggie. Good luck with your build, your going to love the additional power.

Bryan

BooSSted · 03-14-2014, 09:28 AM

IMO you'd be silly to add FI to an already 440-470 NA whp set up without addressing the stock fuel system.
The cost of a ZL1/ADM FPCM is worth the safety and room for expansion, injectors are always in the classifieds section for a low price as well.

LS7 427 · 03-14-2014, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BooSSted

IMO you'd be silly to add FI to an already 440-470 NA whp set up without addressing the stock fuel system.
The cost of a ZL1/ADM FPCM is worth the safety and room for expansion, injectors are always in the classifieds section for a low price as well.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. Looking at fuel pressure and duty cycle on the injectors during tuning would give the definitive answer.

Bryan

jake2212 · 03-14-2014, 10:48 AM

The person I am buying the Maggie off of is also giving me a zl1 fuel pump, but he doesn't have injectors

jake2212 · 03-14-2014, 04:23 PM

So IF this a complete kit(not the tuner version) all I should need is a zl1 pump and injectors?

03-14-2014, 12:46 AM	#1
jake2212 Drives: none (yet) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,131	need help, frustrated. okay, so i have been trying to cram all this different information into my head about what i need vs. what i think i need to put a magnuson blower on my car. So i am turning to you guys here for help. what all do i need to have a maggie on my car running reliably and smoothly? I plan on staying at the 6psi stock boost level and this car is not a dedicated drag car. It is a street driven car. current mods are as follows: CAI headers ported TB(92mm) Lingenfelter GT9 cam+ls3 conversion 1le sways pfadt tie rods/trailing arms zl1 wheels with michelin PSS(for everyone that will say "get better tires") Now, I'm buying a magnuson and I want to know what else i should get so i dont end up on the side of the road pissed off at my broken down car. thank you for your help Last edited by jake2212; 03-14-2014 at 11:41 AM.

03-14-2014, 01:03 AM	#2
axis Search Ninja Drives: 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Central Ark Posts: 7,183	You don't NEED any of the that, except maybe the CAI. Everything else falls under the "nice to have" category. All the PD blowers are made to be able to install and go. Changing over to the LS3 lifters is always a good idea since the AFM lifters are known to fail on stock cars. They aren't a "must have" though. Then it gets into, since you're already changing lifters, it isn't that much more to install a cam. Who makes a 92mm TB? BBK makes a 95 but I haven't heard of a 92 __________________ 2010 Black 2SS/RS A6 Halltech CF 102 fed GPI modded intake manifold Bo (knows) White ported TB Kooks LT's/ Dynomax VT Pfadted (springs/sways) Dyno tuned by Rhino and GPI I once parallel parked a train.

03-14-2014, 05:45 AM	#6
dan0617 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tyrone, PA Posts: 640 View My Garage	ZL1/ADM combo and maybe a BAP, or a twin pump setup. JRE 2800 stall converter. Nice and tight for normal driving. Rear cradle bushings Scrap the cats if you can Wideband setup Boost gauge setup Drag radials and a rear drag alignment __________________ 2011 SS IOM Vert. ECS Vortech 13+ psi, Water/Meth, ID850’s, ZL1 pump with MSD Voltage Booster, 2800 stall, LT headers, Drag radials, Drag alignment, Cradle Bushings. A million other supporting mods. Tuned by Ted.

03-14-2014, 08:59 AM	#10
LS7 427 10.11 @ 136.32 Drives: Black & Yellow 2SS/RS LPE LS7 427 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redcliff, Alberta Posts: 957 View My Garage	With what you have already and considering your "need vs want" criteria for 6psi, this is my opinion... NEED - Maggie TVS2300 full kit (not tuner kit) - A good dyno or email tune (motor and transmission) WANT - Wideband gauge - Boost gauge Three comments - You won't need to address fuel at 6 psi boost (Your tune will confirm that or tell you otherwise) - Should you experience wheel hop, your trailing arms will help but you might consider differential and cradle bushings. I would address that issue if it arises later. - Your existing mods make an excellent platform for the addition of the Maggie. Good luck with your build, your going to love the additional power. Bryan __________________ My Build Journal Built, Tuned and Maintained By........

03-14-2014, 05:11 AM	#5
Jchaluja Drives: ZL1 Camaro Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,321	You need a good tune and I would stay away from a converter in case you wanted one

03-14-2014, 09:28 AM	#11
BooSSted Drives: 2017 Z06 / 2012 CTS Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NY Posts: 731	IMO you'd be silly to add FI to an already 440-470 NA whp set up without addressing the stock fuel system. The cost of a ZL1/ADM FPCM is worth the safety and room for expansion, injectors are always in the classifieds section for a low price as well.

03-14-2014, 10:48 AM	#13
jake2212 Drives: none (yet) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,131	The person I am buying the Maggie off of is also giving me a zl1 fuel pump, but he doesn't have injectors

03-14-2014, 04:23 PM	#14
jake2212 Drives: none (yet) Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Villages, FL Posts: 1,131	So IF this a complete kit(not the tuner version) all I should need is a zl1 pump and injectors?