Whats with the 1st to 4th shift? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

nduda78 · 04-13-2010, 03:48 PM

Not how to search the forum for this, i tried a few ways. Whats up with the center console telling me to shift from 1st to 4th as I just start moving. I notice when that message comes up, it locks out 2nd gear so you can only move to 4th....this is annoying.

v6sonoma · 04-13-2010, 03:57 PM

It's called CAGS computer aided gear selection also more commonly skip shift. It can be annoying but it's perpose is that by having it GM and YOU avoid having to pay the gas guzzler tax. To avoid it you have three choices rev it up till it goes off, shift to 4th then to 2nd (annoying), or what most people do is spend $25 on the skip shift eliminator from SLP or others. It installs easily in 5 minutes and can be done in the driveway with ramps.

MikeSVX · 04-13-2010, 04:00 PM

Just take the RPMs up a little higher and it will let you shift normal. They've been putting it in the Vettes for some time now. Chevy does that to avoid the gas guzzler tax on large displacement manual cars.

Chevyg1rl · 04-13-2010, 04:07 PM

Get the skip shift eliminator. You'll be glad you did.

Rollin Thunder · 04-13-2010, 04:41 PM

I want an explanation of how it actually saves fuel.

Steve Dallas · 04-13-2010, 04:46 PM

As others have said, just shift at a higher rev (above 2000rpm).

Unfortunately, if I'm in traffic and not paying attention, I've been known to just shift at 1500 without thinking. I will usually pause and shift into 3rd instead if it happens. 4th lugs the engine.

My car has been in the shop for repairs, but I have the skip shift eliminator awaiting my cars return. As others have said, this is the way to go.

fielderLS3 · 04-13-2010, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollin Thunder

I want an explanation of how it actually saves fuel.

The fewer RPM's the engine turns, the more efficient it is. It basically forces you into higher gears earlier, so you don't spend as much time in the lower gears, where efficiency is lower.

papabearcamaro · 04-13-2010, 05:03 PM

You can also have it tuned out. Right now I have the skip shift eliminator installed but when I get my car tuned I will take it out and sell it and have the tuner tune out the skip shift crap.

vuduman67 · 04-13-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rollin Thunder

I want an explanation of how it actually saves fuel.

oddly enough the next poster answered your question without trying

He said to rev the engine up to 2000 rpms and it will go away...
but so will the mpg

because of the faster RPMs

Chief Bob · 04-13-2010, 05:54 PM

Get one of these--easy install

JayhawkSS · 04-13-2010, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cap'n Bob

Get one of these--easy install

One question will installing this void the warranty?

ssftw · 04-13-2010, 06:37 PM

and wont it trip the engine chk light? ill do without if so, and just shift at higher rpms :P

Apex Motorsports · 04-13-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ssftw

and wont it trip the engine chk light? ill do without if so, and just shift at higher rpms :P

The Apex Motorsports skip shift eliminator has never caused a check engine lights or trouble code. I can't speak for others.

Ravirn · 04-13-2010, 07:41 PM

CAGS is designed to increase MPG. I don't know who would buy a muscle car because of the mileage it gets, but hey... to each their own. Either quit driving like a grandma (I kid! I kid!), or buy a skip-shift eliminator. Apex Chase has posted on these before, and has done a thorough job of helping people understand CAGS. Everything he's posted has been accurate, so I'd trust his advice.

04-13-2010, 03:48 PM	#1
nduda78 Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lynn, MA Posts: 14	Whats with the 1st to 4th shift? Not how to search the forum for this, i tried a few ways. Whats up with the center console telling me to shift from 1st to 4th as I just start moving. I notice when that message comes up, it locks out 2nd gear so you can only move to 4th....this is annoying.

04-13-2010, 03:57 PM	#2
v6sonoma Drives: 2010 SS RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Providence, RI Posts: 8,108 View My Garage	It's called CAGS computer aided gear selection also more commonly skip shift. It can be annoying but it's perpose is that by having it GM and YOU avoid having to pay the gas guzzler tax. To avoid it you have three choices rev it up till it goes off, shift to 4th then to 2nd (annoying), or what most people do is spend $25 on the skip shift eliminator from SLP or others. It installs easily in 5 minutes and can be done in the driveway with ramps. __________________ Mods: BBK Intake, BBK LT's and High Flow Cats, Corsa Cat-back exhaust, Hurst short throw shifter, SLP skip-shift eliminator. 7/1/09 Placed order for IOM/IO int/ SS/RS 6M 9/26/09 Took delivery!

04-13-2010, 04:07 PM	#4
Chevyg1rl Drives: Chevys Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,408 View My Garage	Get the skip shift eliminator. You'll be glad you did. __________________

04-13-2010, 04:46 PM	#6
Steve Dallas Commits weekly crime Drives: 2017 Camaro 1LT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Camano Island, WA Posts: 9,513 View My Garage	As others have said, just shift at a higher rev (above 2000rpm). Unfortunately, if I'm in traffic and not paying attention, I've been known to just shift at 1500 without thinking. I will usually pause and shift into 3rd instead if it happens. 4th lugs the engine. My car has been in the shop for repairs, but I have the skip shift eliminator awaiting my cars return. As others have said, this is the way to go. __________________ 2017 Camaro 1LT - Blue Barchetta IV I fire up the willing engine, responding with a roar. Tires spitting gravel I commit my weekly crime.

04-13-2010, 05:03 PM	#8
papabearcamaro Drives: 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 4x4 Z71 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: WI. Posts: 1,744	You can also have it tuned out. Right now I have the skip shift eliminator installed but when I get my car tuned I will take it out and sell it and have the tuner tune out the skip shift crap. __________________ SOLD(Traded for 2012 Silverado Z71 4x4 and 2012 Sonic Hatch.)...2010 Camaro 1SS/RS/LS3,yellow with House of Kolor Tangerine Pearl rally stripes,manual trans.Hurst short throw shifter,4 pack rally gauges,Roto-Fab air intake,Kooks long tube headers with high-flow cats,Borla S-Type catback exhaust,Comp Cam,PRC ported heads,Maggie with 3.6 pulley and 1:1 cog drive,secondary fuel system with 65lb injectors,ADM digital A/F and Boost gauge,Pfadt trailing arms and subframe bushings.614.25rwhp/566.82rwtq on 8# of boost. 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 EX.Cab 4X4 Z71.

04-13-2010, 04:00 PM	#3
MikeSVX The magic smoke genie.... Drives: Jewels (2010 RJT 1SS) Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 2,294	Just take the RPMs up a little higher and it will let you shift normal. They've been putting it in the Vettes for some time now. Chevy does that to avoid the gas guzzler tax on large displacement manual cars.

04-13-2010, 04:41 PM	#5
Rollin Thunder Drives: 07 yukon xl, 07 vette, 10 SRT8 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: va beach va Posts: 303	I want an explanation of how it actually saves fuel.

04-13-2010, 05:54 PM	#10
Chief Bob Drives: 2012 Camaro ZL1 SIM CTF Car M6 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Taylor, MI Posts: 883	Get one of these--easy install __________________ 2012 ZL1,CTF Car, SIM MN6, Polished Wheels,The Rare Flat Black Insert. Proud member of the unofficial Camaro5 "Rodgers Chevrolet Fan Club"

04-13-2010, 06:37 PM	#12
ssftw Drives: fast Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Holiday, Florida Posts: 14	and wont it trip the engine chk light? ill do without if so, and just shift at higher rpms :P

04-13-2010, 07:41 PM	#14
Ravirn Account Unaccounted for Drives: Black SS Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 1,703	CAGS is designed to increase MPG. I don't know who would buy a muscle car because of the mileage it gets, but hey... to each their own. Either quit driving like a grandma (I kid! I kid!), or buy a skip-shift eliminator. Apex Chase has posted on these before, and has done a thorough job of helping people understand CAGS. Everything he's posted has been accurate, so I'd trust his advice. __________________ WARLOCK (Black 2SSRS LS3) - A work in progress.

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