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Old 08-18-2014, 10:49 PM   #15
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Let me fix that for you..

Sucks about this brake deal. I'll go find some experts for you.


I got frustrated. Stopped videoing. It takes up more of my precious short car time.

BUT, I will have a video of the car tomorrow.

I wanted to drive the damn thing. Ugh................
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Old 08-18-2014, 10:52 PM   #16
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You could squeeze those brakes plenty hard enough with no booster. I don't see how vacuum factors in here if you were pushing hard enough. If you're pushing hard and it's not stopping then something is preventing that. Pull your wheels off and pull all the calipers and push them in with a C clamp and make sure everything is moving OK. Then bleed the brakes. If you push the pedal and nothing comes out, then you've found your blockage.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:05 PM   #17
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With that duration I could see vacuum issues. The lobe separation isn't too radical though. bet it sounds good.

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Old 08-18-2014, 11:16 PM   #18
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Get some fluid flowing in those lines. Two bleeders on the brembos.
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Old 08-18-2014, 11:44 PM   #19
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You could squeeze those brakes plenty hard enough with no booster. I don't see how vacuum factors in here if you were pushing hard enough. If you're pushing hard and it's not stopping then something is preventing that. Pull your wheels off and pull all the calipers and push them in with a C clamp and make sure everything is moving OK. Then bleed the brakes. If you push the pedal and nothing comes out, then you've found your blockage.
I had read that.

How the hell am I going to get the calipers off if they are stuck? So close to the rotors and I have a lip developed since the car has 85k on it. Changed the pads a couple months before it went down but I was able to pry the pistons in a little.

But certainly I have the power to stop it with no booster. I stood on it REALLY hard when it hit the 'shelf' half way down. So hard in fact I worried I'd brake the pedal arm. It did nothing to stand harder on it.

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With that duration I could see vacuum issues. The lobe separation isn't too radical though. bet it sounds good.
Sound fantastic.

Only thing is I've seen guys put much bigger cams in their 5th gens and not skip a beat. I'll test it all for sure. Starting with the easiest.

Bitch about it is I only have one day a week to really fool with it.

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I had read that.

How the hell am I going to get the calipers off if they are stuck? So close to the rotors and I have a lip developed since the car has 85k on it. Changed the pads a couple months before it went down but I was able to pry the pistons in a little.

But certainly I have the power to stop it with no booster. I stood on it REALLY hard when it hit the 'shelf' half way down. So hard in fact I worried I'd brake the pedal arm. It did nothing to stand harder on it.

Sound fantastic.

Only thing is I've seen guys put much bigger cams in their 5th gens and not skip a beat. I'll test it all for sure. Starting with the easiest.

Bitch about it is I only have one day a week to really fool with it.


I really have to give you props for sticking with that car over the years and all the work you have put into it. I used to have that passion or some say compulsion for working on cars. Now I just buy what others have produced and I don' t get nearly as attached to them.
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I had read that.

How the hell am I going to get the calipers off if they are stuck? So close to the rotors and I have a lip developed since the car has 85k on it. Changed the pads a couple months before it went down but I was able to pry the pistons in a little.

But certainly I have the power to stop it with no booster. I stood on it REALLY hard when it hit the 'shelf' half way down. So hard in fact I worried I'd brake the pedal arm. It did nothing to stand harder on it.
It sounds like you are due for new rotors so I would use a crowbar or something like it to press the pistons back in. Should also detach the lines before doing so if it is the calipers.
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Get the front wheels off the ground and check to see if they freeroll.If they do have Bonnie get in the car depress the brake and again check if they lock or free roll.If they freeroll after depressing the brake pedal work your way back to the master cylinder by applying pressure to the brake pedal and cracking open the lines and check for fluid pressure.

If you have pressure and no clamping force at the rotor I would say you have a piston frozen in the caliper bore.I would do the same for the rear also.A car sitting over time can draw moisture into some of the weirdest places and cause brakes to freeze or not operate properly.

Just something to get you started,I am no expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.
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I really have to give you props for sticking with that car over the years and all the work you have put into it. I used to have that passion or some say compulsion for working on cars. Now I just buy what others have produced and I don' t get nearly as attached to them.
It will be going up for sale soon.

I'll ask my own price and may not budge. But if someone gives me what I want it will be sold. I don't want to but losing our health insurance has taken away our major protection and the cheapest we've found is 700.00 more per month. We always paid out of pocket for everything and had a cat only policy but can't get that anymore.

I ain't giving this car away though. haha

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It sounds like you are due for new rotors so I would use a crowbar or something like it to press the pistons back in. Should also detach the lines before doing so if it is the calipers.
Probably do need rototors. If the pistons aren't locked up they should come off anyway.

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Get the front wheels off the ground and check to see if they freeroll.If they do have Bonnie get in the car depress the brake and again check if they lock or free roll.If they freeroll after depressing the brake pedal work your way back to the master cylinder by applying pressure to the brake pedal and cracking open the lines and check for fluid pressure.

If you have pressure and no clamping force at the rotor I would say you have a piston frozen in the caliper bore.I would do the same for the rear also.A car sitting over time can draw moisture into some of the weirdest places and cause brakes to freeze or not operate properly.

Just something to get you started,I am no expert but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.
I'll do all of the above and more on the weekend.

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I can't really see that as I get the hard shelf half way down. So it seems to be holding well.
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sounds like brake booster went out, rubber diaphragm probably cracked
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It will be going up for sale soon.

I'll ask my own price and may not budge. But if someone gives me what I want it will be sold. I don't want to but losing our health insurance has taken away our major protection and the cheapest we've found is 700.00 more per month. We always paid out of pocket for everything and had a cat only policy but can't get that anymore.

I ain't giving this car away though. haha

Probably do need rototors. If the pistons aren't locked up they should come off anyway.

I'll do all of the above and more on the weekend.

I can't really see that as I get the hard shelf half way down. So it seems to be holding well.
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sounds like brake booster went out, rubber diaphragm probably cracked
But without the booster shouldn't it still have brakes as if the car is just not running?

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But without the booster shouldn't it still have brakes as if the car is just not running?

I know.
It feels the same with the car off? I'm not sure if it would feel that way or not but I'd start by checking out the booster and the master cylinder.
I think your master cylinder has to come off to check the booster anyways. I know it's not usual for a bad master cyl to make the pedal feel the way you described but still possible.

I've got a feeling you'll end up with a 6th gen soon after
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