My dealer shafted me

[rrubio]

Originally Posted by Zedder

I'm experiencing something similar and hope to get it resolved tomorrow. My dealer promised me the car early this week and then called yesterday to say that the order he had already placed in the system before we talked had been pulled and he had to get permission from GM to change the order to my specs. He called back today and said that he got permission and we are all set. What should I ask to see tomorrow to prove this? What status should the order be at? He told me it had a April 16th target build date sheduled. Thanks in advance...

Zedder, I changed an order that the dealership already had, the following tues the status went to 2050, showing it had been changed. I have since gone to status 3000. Good Luck!

[FreddyG]

Originally Posted by snapp32e

Order a 2013 is what I would do.

.........from a different dealer!

[speedmon]

I'm new so be kind.....
My dealer told me that they they can get a 2012 ZL1 for me, but I have to pay them a $5000 premium over sticker which will be the deposit and will be non-refundable.

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

[rjansen]

Originally Posted by speedmon

I'm new so be kind.....
My dealer told me that they they can get a 2012 ZL1 for me, but I have to pay them a $5000 premium over sticker which will be the deposit and will be non-refundable.

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

NO! He may be able to get you your ZL1. But he is tacking on the 5 g over the MSRP. The GOOD dealers aren't doing this. It is normal for them to ask for a down payment before they order your car. But this down payment applies toward the final price of the car and is deducted from it.

The greedy dealers know that because of the demand for this car, they can slap on an amount over and above MSRP and still get people to order the car...and it's all clear profit for them. I've seen markups listed in excess of $15,000 by some of these unscrupulous dealers!

If you want the car now bad enough, I guess you order it with the markup and contribute to the dealer's early retirement. Otherwise, tell him to stick it where the sun don't shine, and order a 2013 from a reputable dealer at MSRP. The 2013's are going to be a lot easier to score.

[rrubio]

Originally Posted by speedmon

I'm new so be kind.....
My dealer told me that they they can get a 2012 ZL1 for me, but I have to pay them a $5000 premium over sticker which will be the deposit and will be non-refundable.

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

try calling around, there are dealers that may still have an allocation for it. you might be able to get it at MSRP, or at least less than 5 over, and they could ship it to the closest dealer to you.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Z4me

Hi Scott do you know when the cut off date will be for the dealers recieving thier final allocation before the 2013's kick in. Thank you!

off the top of my head, no - (sorry - am in Milwaukee with a buncha Camaro Enthusiasts lookin' at a ZL1!)

[whistle pig]

Originally Posted by speedmon

I'm new so be kind.....
My dealer told me that they they can get a 2012 ZL1 for me, but I have to pay them a $5000 premium over sticker which will be the deposit and will be non-refundable.

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

I talked to several smaller local dealers, none of them got an allocation for a 12' ZL1. Most of them said it was rumored that the dealers that were getting them were adding $10,000 to the MSRP.

Of course, no one here ever pays over MSRP, but in the real world it appers at least some do.

[Zikma]

The first dealer I went to did the exact same thing. Said they had one allocation and took a deposit and placed an order. It showed at 1100 on gmconnects and so I started quizzing them. Eventually (after almost a week) they told me they never had an allocation but sometimes if gm produced more than expected the order could be picked up because it was in the system. If not they could get me a 2013.

I started calling dealers all over the US (over 30 dealerships from Milwaukee WI to Roanoak VA). Any that I found that had an allocation wanted 5000 over MSRP. I finally found a dealer that had one ordered that was close to what I orriginally ordered. It didn't have the stripe or the LPO mats and cargo net. Once they faxed me the order sheet for showing it was sitting at 3000, I put down a deposit.

[Coolidge]

Originally Posted by speedmon

I'm new so be kind.....
My dealer told me that they they can get a 2012 ZL1 for me, but I have to pay them a $5000 premium over sticker which will be the deposit and will be non-refundable.

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

Tell them to pound sand.

[CAM....ZL1]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Don't assume that the dealer is lying to you.

They can go into a specific GM Launch site - it will tell them how many ZL1s they're getting - simply ask to see it.

Remember - it's impossible to build all of the ZL1s at once. Everyone (rightfully so) wants to be in the first month or two of build - that can't happen, unfortunately....so your dealer MAY be getting two ZL1s - but we haven't pulled the orders as of yet.

Reread FBOD's last statement do you see how he used all caps for the word MAY, or maybe the month of MAY

[BlemsBumble]

Originally Posted by speedmon

Is this common with the dealers at this point, this premium?

In California it is.

[speedmon]

Thanks for the update. The $5K didn't bug me as much as the "extortion" concept....nonrefundable deposit.

Aug and Oct are right around the corner, only 8 months away, so maybe I'll just target the 2013.

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by BudRod

When getting warranty work done on my 2010 2ss rs In January I asked dealer if they had any allocations for the LZ1. Yes they replied, we have two at MSRP. I talked to them for a week put down a 2K deposit and they ordered my car so they said. Made plans to sell a car in stable and had wife convinced that she shouldn't divorce me. Well I went to track order yesterday and lo order had been placed by dealer BUT reply from GM Connects said dealer has not received allocation to place order in first place. I called and asked what the hell was going on, sale contact said he would get back to me, and a hour later got a call assuring me my car was ordered and everything was fine. I told them this was BS and they said they would get back to me after they called the regional Gm sales rep. Have not heard a word since. I am a little hot to put it mildly about this. Expected to have car by early June at latest. Am seriously considering telling them to give me my deposit back and put their BS where the sun don't shine. Any Ideas why they would jerk me around like this? And what would you do about it if it was you.

Just because your dealer does not have an allocation to put against your order this month, does not mean he will not have an allocation to put against it next month. Many dealers have not yet received their first allocation yet. Patience my friend....

[Hylton]

Originally Posted by Zedder

I'm experiencing something similar and hope to get it resolved tomorrow. My dealer promised me the car early this week and then called yesterday to say that the order he had already placed in the system before we talked had been pulled and he had to get permission from GM to change the order to my specs. He called back today and said that he got permission and we are all set. What should I ask to see tomorrow to prove this? What status should the order be at? He told me it had a April 16th target build date sheduled. Thanks in advance...

Are you going to be able to handle all this power Mark?