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so they said the can figure out getting 6 pots on stock ss size but it would be awhile and might require custom pads.
ss calipers 4 piston are in the works just have to figure the mounting hardware. also they can make zl1/ctsv size calipers to match their rb zl1 size rotor. any more questions anyone has?
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if it can that would be sweet, you would have to contact them. then you can sell the old rotor rings if they are in good shape to a car show type guy
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05-14-2013, 10:15 PM | #101 |
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I can tell you the CTSV/ZL1 Rotors will stop you far better than the stock SS calipers even with RB rotors. The ZL1 rotor is a two piece rotor, so the RB rotor will save a few pounds, but the ZL1 rotor has more pad to help with stopping...when I need rotors, I will be upgrading to the lighter RB rotors, but the CTSV calipers stop you now...with the right pads, lines and fluid, they are awesome...I recommend buying the JDP Motorsports kit, they have it all ready to install....don't forget to split the clutch resevoir if you have a manual...they have a kit for that too....
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Bu that would require us to be at the same event. Saw you parked by registration last fontana day but never saw (met) you or your car again.
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I was just getting in a little autocross practice at Fontana before I took my car to Heidt's Performance Car Challenge in Joliet, IL...I won the autocross event there, so the practice must have helped me getting the coil overs dialed in. I think after the 3 black flags for people's cars dying on the track, I only got in five laps on the Road Course at Autobahn, and was mid pack with my numbers...My Camaro is going to be in the Midwest for much of the summer for various events, so will have to hit an event with you when I bring it back in September...
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05-15-2013, 10:55 AM | #104 | |
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Do you have the CTSV calipers on the back too or just the front?
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05-15-2013, 11:26 AM | #105 | |
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Hi Doc, just the front are CTSV...the SS rear calipers are the same basic thing as CTSV/ZL1 and use the same pads.
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05-15-2013, 11:35 AM | #106 |
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RB confirmed this morning via email with me that the SS hat will fit the ZL1/CTS-V rotor ring!! But they are $728/pair as opposed to $585 for the SS rotor rings so I'll just have to see on that upgrade. For now I have the following:
CTS-V yellow calipers (172-2521 & 172-2522) - $274 each CTS-V front rotors (177-1105) - $214 each CTS-V front brake pads (25940447) - $175 That is $1151 without shipping and I just need the pin kit and paint. I'm not sure for me and the amount I track that I will be doing RB rotors for an additional $728 but I do recommend them if you keep the stock 4 piston SS calipers!! Although it is just $300 more and it would save me the hassle of installing brake ducts for almost $100 and I get the added performance benefits. Best thing is you can always upgrade the SS rotor rings to the larger size if needed so they have that flexibility.
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The larger pad and clamping area of a 6 pot caliper offers an improvement in actual distance and also in the consistency of stopping power when running at extreme loads on a road course. As mentioned earlier in the thread the variation in the size of the pistons produces even clamping across a larger pad. The strength of the caliper has a direct impact on stopping power. The better the design and manufacture of the caliper the stronger it will be. A full on NASCAR two pot setup is vastly superior to any production car brake.
Ducts are quite important as well. You have all seen pictures of glowing red hot rotors. The typical track pads have a max temp of 1200 degrees or less. The highest heat range pads are 2000 degrees. This chart is not specifically for brakes. It is a steel temperature by color chart. Brown Red is 1100 Fahrenheit! You can check your brake rotor temp with Temperature Indicating Brake Paint. It is available here: https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...asp?RecID=4974 The ventilation design of any rotor is a significant factor in rotor temperatures on track. Assuming Racing Brake has the best design available, they will still run cooler with brake ducts fitted. The faster you go, the harder you brake the more heat you will generate. Calipers, rotors, pads and ducts are all essential for optimal performance. |
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Which brings up a really good point, where are the aftermarket brake duct kits? I know there are quite a few of us that would be interested in them.
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There is a good DIY somewhere in here for brake ducts with all part numbers and prices. It is under $100 too. I would imaGine the Z/28 kit will available once it is out.
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toehead and JP,
I have seen all of the DIY threads about brake ducts on here but all of those push air at the back or one side of the rotor. Not to take anything away from the awesome efforts that these folks have done but I would think that pushing air at both sides of the rotor would be better. So that is why I ask about the after market thinking that they could come up with a better design that would push the air at both sides of the rotor or the topside so that both sides of the rotor would get air. I have heard rumors that a couple of places are close with this type of design. IF not, I am going to go down and have BannonM help me out since he is local and a great guy. T.
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