11-22-2010, 11:11 PM | #1 |
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Short Headers?
I am looking to buy intake, headers, and exhaust. I already know what exhaust (borla atak) and intake (K&N) I want, but is it worth the money to buy short headers or will that be a waste of money for minimal gains? Opinions are welcome. I would go long tube with high flow cats, but don't want to void any warranty right now. I was looking at buying the Doug Thorley short headers (which I heard were good), but again will that be worth the $500 I have to pay for them? Thanks in advance for the help.
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11-23-2010, 12:58 AM | #2 |
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While 99% of the people out there will club you to death over them saying how much better Longtubes are some of them do give you gains and they don't require a tune. LT's will give you 3-4 times the increase but will 99% of the time require a tune. So if you can't tune it then the shorties are worth the money. If you could care less about tuning them Longtubes are the only way to go.
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11-23-2010, 11:31 AM | #7 |
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i'm ordering a set of dt shortys today. i've got the c.a.i. intake and corsa catbacks installed and i don't want to kill my warranty til i've had her at least a year.
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11-23-2010, 11:51 AM | #8 |
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I've had a set of DT shorties for about a year now and I love them! When I installed them I didn't really notice much in the way of performance, maybe a little low end torque, but I love the looks & quality. The most bang for my buck was when I added the Solo Performance high flow cats a few months ago! Shorties and cat back exhaust really don't do much for performance, it's the cats that will really make the difference! My Solo's haven't set off a CEL yet and Solo says they won't because the position of the first O2 sensor doesn't change from the stock position. If you like it LOUD the high flows really bang out a bark! I had to add resonators to calm it down a bit and keep the neighbors happy. It sounds REALLY good now!
With all this said, if the high flow cats came out last year when I did the DT shorties and cat back exhaust, I would have left the stock manifolds and stock exhaust on and just did the high flow cats! Would have saved me a lot of money! In conclusion, I like my DT's for their looks and I love the sound of my Solo Mach-X cat back, so I'm happy. Performance wise I love the Solo high flow cats! SO, it depends on what you're looking for, performance, sound, or looks. The DT's will give great under hood looks (and a small bump in power), the cat back will give you the sound you want, and high flow cats will be the performance blockbuster of the 3! And the great part is, NO TUNE REQUIRED for this set-up! Sorry for rambling, hope this helps! Oh, and before anyone asks, no I didn't do any dyno or track runs, just SOP! Last edited by ssmike; 11-23-2010 at 12:02 PM. |
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Is there any real difference in sound with Shorties? I've heard longtubes but I can't really figure out if there is a difference . . .
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most people state they cant really hear a difference
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When I installed my DT's I already had my cat back system on. I really didn't notice much of a difference in sound with adding the DT's. Again, the big obstruction to flow and sound are the cats! Change nothing else but put high flow cats on and you get increased power and sound, best bang for the buck in performance!
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[most likely as it will change the amount of oxygen that will be sensed by the O2 sensors after the cats. It has a range of expected values and high flow cats release more O2 (meaning less O2 was used to bond with toxic chemicals in the catalytic conversion) than the stock cats.
From what I learned the high flow cats aren't as good at converting the toxic chemicals into non-toxic variants... Quote:
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