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DeathChill · 11-14-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

Sorry to burst your bubble but the Z was never the badass that the SS are/were. So unless GM changes how it's done thing's in the past, this will be no different.

It's quite clear from what we've heard that the Z28 will be the GT500's competition.

meanmike · 11-14-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathChill

It's quite clear from what we've heard that the Z28 will be the GT500's competition.

We have'nt really heard much at all.

Frank in MD · 11-14-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

We have'nt really heard much at all.

Well, now you have.

Frank in MD · 11-14-2009, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

Sorry to burst your bubble but the Z was never the badass that the SS are/were. So unless GM changes how it's done thing's in the past, this will be no different.

Ah, but the V6's now are what the V8 were then, so what is your point?

meanmike · 11-14-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockmont

Ah, but the V6's now are what the V8 were then, so what is your point?

Yes and the V8's now are also better. I already made my point, but I will do it again. It goes SS, Z28, and then LT or whatever. So now you want to tell me that all of the sudden it goes Z28, SS, and then LT? It has never been that way before, so why would now be any different? I know this is a new GM, but some thing's IMO will never change.

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It's just a matter of time until GM returns the Z to it's rightful place

Too make my point a little more clear, if GM make's the Z, I dont think it will be a HP monster like the Shelby is. The SS has alway's been the big Dawg. So that righful place your refering to belong's to the SS.

Frank in MD · 11-14-2009, 06:00 PM

Well, time makes a liar out of everyone, and I have heard it different, and that is all I can say for now.

a_Username · 11-14-2009, 06:08 PM

Like I've said in other threads Mike...

The Z/28 was only limited to it's small motor due to racing restrictions in the Trans Am series and insurance. With these restrictions no longer in play, except the insurance of course, then I believe GM will make the Z/28 compete with the GT500 in all aspects. Their next car needs to compete with the GT500 no matter what, and if tradition no matter the circumstances need to be honored, then the next trim of the Camaro should be a ZL1 or a different RPO Code altogether.

meanmike · 11-14-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockmont

Well, time makes a liar out of everyone, and I have heard it different, and that is all I can say for now.

Well if you honestly know something the rest of us dont, I'm sure you dont have any obligation to keep it that way. So spit it out already.

meanmike · 11-14-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by a_Username

Like I've said in other threads Mike...

The Z/28 was only limited to it's small motor due to racing restrictions in the Trans Am series and insurance. With these restrictions no longer in play, except the insurance of course, then I believe GM will make the Z/28 compete with the GT500 in all aspects. Their next car needs to compete with the GT500 no matter what, and if tradition no matter the circumstances need to be honored, then the next trim of the Camaro should be a ZL1 or a different RPO Code altogether.

So then bring the Z28 in to take the place of the current SS and then bump SS up too the GT500's level.

a_Username · 11-14-2009, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

So then bring the Z28 in to take the place of the current SS and then bump SS up too the GT500's level.

Then the extra costs to do that, plus the pissed off people who already bought an SS makes this an all around bad idea.

meanmike · 11-14-2009, 06:24 PM

I'm not sure where you get the extra cost's from? As far as pissing people off, I think some will be mad because they made a Z better than the SS, and other's will just be mad because they dont have the better performer. Oh, and some will just be mad because they can be.

DeathChill · 11-14-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by meanmike

We have'nt really heard much at all.

We've heard some pretty reliable rumours about the Z28. As far as we know it will be competing with the GT500, seeing as it is apparently using the CTS-V setup.

ironpeddler · 11-14-2009, 08:21 PM

the all aluminum block won't be that much of an u/g. I mean when a car weighs just shy of 4k lbs. most people aren't going to feel a -90 lb. difference off the front end. Still that would put the GT500 w/aluminum block lighter or darn near lighter than the SS which doesn't bode well for the Z28.

DeathChill · 11-14-2009, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ironpeddler

the all aluminum block won't be that much of an u/g. I mean when a car weighs just shy of 4k lbs. most people aren't going to feel a -90 lb. difference off the front end. Still that would put the GT500 w/aluminum block lighter or darn near lighter than the SS which doesn't bode well for the Z28.

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11-14-2009, 06:08 PM	#2415
a_Username Drives: 2010 2SS Camaro Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 3,890 View My Garage	Like I've said in other threads Mike... The Z/28 was only limited to it's small motor due to racing restrictions in the Trans Am series and insurance. With these restrictions no longer in play, except the insurance of course, then I believe GM will make the Z/28 compete with the GT500 in all aspects. Their next car needs to compete with the GT500 no matter what, and if tradition no matter the circumstances need to be honored, then the next trim of the Camaro should be a ZL1 or a different RPO Code altogether.

11-14-2009, 06:24 PM	#2419
meanmike Account Suspended Drives: FIRST ON RACE DAY Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,170	I'm not sure where you get the extra cost's from? As far as pissing people off, I think some will be mad because they made a Z better than the SS, and other's will just be mad because they dont have the better performer. Oh, and some will just be mad because they can be.