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Old 10-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #29
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I've never heard of this, does that rally work?
I've never tried it, never had a brand spankin new car
but I read it on a thread here somewhere, it sure sounds like it will work
if anything, it wouldn't hurt IMO
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:37 PM   #30
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The thing is the Manufacturer's break in method is not just for the engine, it's also the entire drive line and brakes. transmissions and rear gears need time to "settle in" or find their proper set. Running the entire driveline hard over the first few hundred miles could put more wear and strain on those too. This is an area most people do not even think about.
So we are not just talking about engines here, but actually all of the mechanical parts of the car.
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:49 PM   #31
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maybe I could run it hard on the first 100s to take care of the engine, then resume to drive less barbaric to give the rest of the car its proper break-in
this won't be a feeble piece of machinery, but proper maintenance/care should be a priority IMO for us enthusiasts!
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Old 10-01-2008, 12:50 PM   #32
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why take the synthetic out that will be in it? i have never gotten that
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:11 PM   #33
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why take the synthetic out that will be in it? i have never gotten that
synthetic is more "lubey", if u may, and reduces friction much better than standard oil. This will counter the effectiveness of the break-in period by not allowing the piston ring seals to wear in properly.
"If the gas pressure is strong enough during the engine's first miles of operation (open that throttle !!!), then the entire ring will wear into the cylinder surface, to seal the combustion pressure as well as possible. "
-http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm

the key is to "wear the rings into the cylinder surface", to seal as well as possible.
again, im no expert. but i've researched this for a bit and it makes perfect sense to me

anyone that knows more about this subect feel free to ring in!
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:31 PM   #34
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tested and proven by whom?
In this case, the guy experimented. In other cases, it depends on the source. I can't speak for everyone.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:42 PM   #35
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Screw break-in. I'll romp on it out of the lot.
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Old 10-01-2008, 01:42 PM   #36
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my concern is that you never get all the oil out so you will always have some non synthetic in there
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I was told (and actually saw from experience) that if you put synthetic oil in a car and then put regular oil in, its extremely bad for the engine and specifically was told that this coudl lead to the engine not turning off when you switch it off. Lo and behold, My dad's navigator took synthetic but at one point whoever did the oil change (it may have been me i dont remember I was 14) put regular in and at points the engine refused to turn off (literally) such as turning the ignition off and taking the key out and the engine would remain running....

I'm no where near an expert but just curious is this truly bad for the engine?
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:14 PM   #38
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I was told (and actually saw from experience) that if you put synthetic oil in a car and then put regular oil in, its extremely bad for the engine and specifically was told that this coudl lead to the engine not turning off when you switch it off. Lo and behold, My dad's navigator took synthetic but at one point whoever did the oil change (it may have been me i dont remember I was 14) put regular in and at points the engine refused to turn off (literally) such as turning the ignition off and taking the key out and the engine would remain running....

I'm no where near an expert but just curious is this truly bad for the engine?
still holds true IMO, but i bet this didnt happen at break-in?
Ideally, u want to BEGIN break-in with regular oil. but this is not always possible(as will be the Camaro's case, i presume), so ASAP is the best bet.
BUT, you could always switch from Regular to Synthetic afterwards...

im thinkin of TOWing the new Camaro to my place, now that i think about it, then perform the switch
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:20 PM   #39
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my concern is that you never get all the oil out so you will always have some non synthetic in there
agreed. then we best find out what kind of oil will be in the Camaro before we make our moves!
has that been released btw???
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:30 PM   #40
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I've never heard of this, does that really work?
This guy claims it does. If anyone hasn't read that article, I'd strongly encourage it. For me, many things he claims to have found seem to make sense, however, I'm no engineer, so...

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The thing is the Manufacturer's break in method is not just for the engine, it's also the entire drive line and brakes. transmissions and rear gears need time to "settle in" or find their proper set. Running the entire driveline hard over the first few hundred miles could put more wear and strain on those too. This is an area most people do not even think about.
So we are not just talking about engines here, but actually all of the mechanical parts of the car.
First, I was going to comment somewhat ?against? this however, your points on it's probably best to follow those who actually engineered the car that someone who has had no specific experience with it make total sense too. Everyone has to remember that we're not just breaking-in an engine, but the entire vehicle. This is a great point, IMVHO

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agreed. then we best find out what kind of oil will be in the Camaro before we make our moves!
has that been released btw???
I don't think this information has been released. I won't be suprised if it's synthetic though.
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still holds true IMO, but i bet this didnt happen at break-in?
Ideally, u want to BEGIN break-in with regular oil. but this is not always possible(as will be the Camaro's case, i presume), so ASAP is the best bet.
BUT, you could always switch from Regular to Synthetic afterwards...

im thinkin of TOWing the new Camaro to my place, now that i think about it, then perform the switch
hahah or screw it do the dam oil change in the dealership parking lot :-p

No this was not during the break in period so it had been using synthetic for quite awhile.

I have a strong feeling its going to come with synthetic...in which case I'm not sure if im going to swap out for regular or not yet.
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^^^hahaha true
and thanks Radz
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