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PMJ · 03-26-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

You may want to get in touch with redline i think it is. I think they built a fast 1/4 mile ZL1, ask them how the rear is holding up, LPE would be a good one too. I weighed the diff the other day and came in at 144 LBS so its a beefy unit.

Great suggestion! The redline ZL1 is at 750 whp with no modifications to the drive line and no issues to date. He says he has a number of ZL1s in the 800s with no issues to date as well.

I think i'll probalby go the ZL1 route...may wait for a little better price though.

PMJ · 03-26-2013, 10:55 PM

I spoke too soon...just pulling the price on the Diff, axels & drive shaft on GMPartsDirect was a little over $3K, but added around $800 S&H. I guess i'll be calling my local Chevy dealer back...looks like they gave me a good price.

Bomino · 03-26-2013, 11:26 PM

Why not the hammerhead? I mean obviously it is to save money, but being that the hammerhead shell is aluminum, your gonna be saving weight. not only that, but DSS stands behind their product, and if something goes wrong, your dealing with someone who is going to be a lot more willing to help than GM.

the axles would also be much stronger, and you can upgrade the driveshaft to a 1-piece while your at it for an overall smoother drivetrain.

To me it seems like a worthy investment for a couple grand more.

If your gonna spend 4k, why not 6k, right? haha

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 03-27-2013, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PMJ

Great suggestion! The redline ZL1 is at 750 whp with no modifications to the drive line and no issues to date. He says he has a number of ZL1s in the 800s with no issues to date as well.

I think i'll probalby go the ZL1 route...may wait for a little better price though.

Are they autos or sticks?

JohnnyBfromPeoria · 03-27-2013, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomino

your gonna be saving weight, unsprung weight.

It's sprung weight. The center section is mounted to the chassis.

John B.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 04-01-2013, 03:23 PM

Anyone have a part number for the ZL1 trans flange thats not in the gm performance book or any other place besides ADM that makes a trans flage adapter?

10 2SS/RS 6M · 04-01-2013, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

Anyone have a part number for the ZL1 trans flange thats not in the gm performance book or any other place besides ADM that makes a trans flage adapter?

Why not just go with the flange from ADM? Probably cheaper.
I'll call my parts guy at my Chevy parts dealer to see if he can get it, I have to call him anyway to see what's up with the whole ZL1 IRS kit, an it's availability. I'm thinking of buying the axles, 1K HP DSS axles to the stock diff, I hear they bolt right up to the HammerHead since the dimensions are the same, then as the $ grows I'll add the HammerHead and the driveshaft.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 04-01-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 2SS/RS 6M

Why not just go with the flange from ADM? Probably cheaper.
I'll call my parts guy at my Chevy parts dealer to see if he can get it, I have to call him anyway to see what's up with the whole ZL1 IRS kit, an it's availability. I'm thinking of buying the axles, 1K HP DSS axles to the stock diff, I hear they bolt right up to the HammerHead since the dimensions are the same, then as the $ grows I'll add the HammerHead and the driveshaft.

The ADM adapter flange is $200 with the cost of the driveshaft i could be at gforce or dss one. Just trying to keep all ZL1 parts I have info saying they support some high numbers.

Southern Comfort · 04-01-2013, 08:25 PM

There is an entire ZL1 rear end assembly listed on ebay for 4 grand.

OEM Manual LSA Rear Suspension Assembly 3.73 Gear Ratio Cooler

Used with 2000 miles, but might save someone time gathering components.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 04-01-2013, 08:32 PM

It may save time but I'll have all new stuff for just at about $3500 minus the cooler.

Jason P · 04-01-2013, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

Anyone have a part number for the ZL1 trans flange thats not in the gm performance book or any other place besides ADM that makes a trans flage adapter?

Take yours out and go to a machine shop, and have the holes milled out.

Southern Comfort · 04-01-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

It may save time but I'll have all new stuff for just at about $3500 minus the cooler.

Not suggesting you change your plans, just an fyi for the audience.

Stealth 2010 2SS/RS · 04-01-2013, 08:42 PM

Jason I'm in no real hurry, car isn't even out of storage yet. I'm just trying to find it the ZL1 trans flange will work with the ss trans and if there is a part number for it. Have you got a chance to play with the rear yet?

Jason P · 04-01-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

Anyone have a part number for the ZL1 trans flange thats not in the gm performance book or any other place besides ADM that makes a trans flage adapter?

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Originally Posted by Stealth 2010 2SS/RS

Jason I'm in no real hurry, car isn't even out of storage yet. I'm just trying to find it the ZL1 trans flange will work with the ss trans and if there is a part number for it. Have you got a chance to play with the rear yet?

No. My zl1 fuel pump and msd voltage booster was the wrong combination according to Ted. So now I'm waiting on an LPE fuel pump to put in. I don't want to burn my car down but the waiting is killing me.

03-26-2013, 10:55 PM	#128
PMJ Seeking 9s on M6... Drives: 2012 2SS/RS LS3 aka "BlackWidow" Join Date: May 2012 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 397	I spoke too soon...just pulling the price on the Diff, axels & drive shaft on GMPartsDirect was a little over $3K, but added around $800 S&H. I guess i'll be calling my local Chevy dealer back...looks like they gave me a good price. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

03-26-2013, 11:26 PM	#129
Bomino Drives: 2011 2ss/rs Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Nurburgring Posts: 104	Why not the hammerhead? I mean obviously it is to save money, but being that the hammerhead shell is aluminum, your gonna be saving weight. not only that, but DSS stands behind their product, and if something goes wrong, your dealing with someone who is going to be a lot more willing to help than GM. the axles would also be much stronger, and you can upgrade the driveshaft to a 1-piece while your at it for an overall smoother drivetrain. To me it seems like a worthy investment for a couple grand more. If your gonna spend 4k, why not 6k, right? haha Last edited by Bomino; 04-02-2013 at 02:13 PM.

04-01-2013, 03:23 PM	#132
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Anyone have a part number for the ZL1 trans flange thats not in the gm performance book or any other place besides ADM that makes a trans flage adapter? __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

04-01-2013, 08:32 PM	#136
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	It may save time but I'll have all new stuff for just at about $3500 minus the cooler. __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

04-01-2013, 08:42 PM	#139
Stealth 2010 2SS/RS Drives: Black 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnesota, Vadnais Heights Posts: 494 View My Garage	Jason I'm in no real hurry, car isn't even out of storage yet. I'm just trying to find it the ZL1 trans flange will work with the ss trans and if there is a part number for it. Have you got a chance to play with the rear yet? __________________ 2010 LS3 2SS/RS M6 AirAid Cold Air Intake, AAC LED sidemarkers, AAC P13w plasmas drl, Kook's Custom 1-7/8" Headers, Corsa Hybrid Exhaust JRE 445 Cam Package, JRE SCT Tune, RX Catch Can and Breather Tech AFX Heater Hose Relocation Kit, Black Chrome Wheels Pfadt trailing and toe arms, Pfadt solid subframe mounts, Pfadt diff bushings, Street Slayer Twin Carbon Technostalgia Camaro LED taillights, CTS-V Front Brakes, Powder Coated Calipers By ME MGW Short Throw Shifter Complete ZL1 Rearend Swap

04-01-2013, 08:25 PM	#135
Southern Comfort No Tags/Habitual Violator Drives: 2012 SIM 2SS/RS & z71 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: North Georgia Posts: 2,379 View My Garage	There is an entire ZL1 rear end assembly listed on ebay for 4 grand. OEM Manual LSA Rear Suspension Assembly 3.73 Gear Ratio Cooler Used with 2000 miles, but might save someone time gathering components.