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Bell040 · 01-23-2014, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by B-_-RAD

Headers/cai/tune, and a small shot of nitrous (wet 75-100) and of course some tires. That should exceed your expectations.

This.

You might not even need the headers and cai.

B-_-RAD · 01-23-2014, 10:21 AM

The cai/headers were just suggested as they really woke the car up imo.

camaro500 · 01-23-2014, 10:58 AM

Let the competition begin!

wakespeak · 01-23-2014, 11:35 AM

The M5 has a higher redline with 560hp and 502ft/lbs at 1500 rpm. Just a little heavier. 0-60 in 4.4 secs, which the 1LE can do stock.

"The car rides on 19-inch alloy wheels that reduce unsprung weight." The smaller diameter would give a slight boost to axle ratio.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-...#ixzz2rFBTr5kz

A ZL1 clone might be the answer: 0-60 in 3.9 secs/ qtr in 12.0. Traction must be the issue. GM performance parts has the LSA supercharger as a bolt on in their catalog if you want it dealer installed.

Smirnoff · 01-23-2014, 11:46 AM

See signature.....plus drag radials/skinny fronts.

Camaro Dude · 01-23-2014, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakespeak

The M5 has a higher redline with 560hp and 502ft/lbs at 1500 rpm. Just a little heavier. 0-60 in 4.4 secs, which the 1LE can do stock.

"The car rides on 19-inch alloy wheels that reduce unsprung weight." The smaller diameter would give a slight boost to axle ratio.

http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-...#ixzz2rFBTr5kz

A ZL1 clone might be the answer: 0-60 in 3.9 secs/ qtr in 12.0. Traction must be the issue. GM performance parts has the LSA supercharger as a bolt on in their catalog if you want it dealer installed.

guys I skim read everything here since I'm away and on iPhone...

Regarding that m5 review link, that 4.4 sec time is 0-100 km btw, not 60mph

, so basically the M5 is a 3.9-4.0 vehicle and RWD.

Ok, I think I should have been more specific with my question, as thankful as I am with all the input here.

I don't plan to drag race...but what I really want is this, so plz bare with me again. Let's say I'm on an open road (closed circuit) track, I'm doing 40mph, and there is a M5 right beside me, and we gun it......

This is the EXACT scenario that I want to improve on here.
I want Sledge to at least be able to keep up....

This is my dilemma here.

axis · 01-23-2014, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro Dude

guys I skim read everything here since I'm away and on iPhone...

Regarding that m5 review link, that 4.4 sec time is 0-100 km btw, not 60mph

, so basically the M5 is a 3.9-4.0 vehicle and RWD.

Ok, I think I should have been more specific with my question, as thankful as I am with all the input here.

I don't plan to drag race...but what I really want is this, so plz bare with me again. Let's say I'm on an open road (closed circuit) track, I'm doing 40mph, and there is a M5 right beside me, and we gun it......

This is the EXACT scenario that I want to improve on here.
I want Sledge to at least be able to keep up....

This is my dilemma here.

What you want is a highway hero. Gears and as much HP as you can afford. FI is probably gonna be your best bet. Something that doesn't fall off on the top end, if you plan to race to 160+mph.

Rhino79 · 01-23-2014, 12:14 PM

Procharger, headers, drag radials , tune, done....lol.

Camaro Dude · 01-23-2014, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axis

What you want is a highway hero. Gears and as much HP as you can afford. FI is probably gonna be your best bet. Something that doesn't fall off on the top end, if you plan to race to 160+mph.

Well I never said I wanted top speed. Just asking the min amount of $$$$ required, to make my ride just car as quick as an M5 when side to side, and not necessarily at the drag strip, but generally speaking. Turbo'ing is an obvious approach I'm looking at, but it's $6900 plus tuning as well. I'm only curious what is the bare minimum $$$$ from a NA approach in order to reach the aforementioned power goals.

Camaro Dude · 01-23-2014, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-_-RAD

Headers/cai/tune, and a small shot of nitrous (wet 75-100) and of course some tires. That should exceed your expectations.

This setup sounds interesting actually...

What would be the cost of this trio+1, considering a quality install with top notch parts?

Nitrous not really what I had in mind though, but interesting nonetheless.

Pro Stock John · 01-23-2014, 02:22 PM

From a 40 roll, you'd be in 2nd gear so you'd need some traction (drag radials), make more power (headers, air intake, ported intake), and I think gear would be good too.

There is a 12.8 stock posted for a 1LE, I think throw on some drag radials should be 12.4-12.5. Throw some bolt-ons on there and I think you'll be pretty strong. I don't see why you wouldn't pick up at least 5mph from bolt-ons.

HumanWiki · 01-23-2014, 02:28 PM

60' -- 2.008
ET = 11.973
Trap = 120.19MPH

blower, headers, axles, PFADT solid mounts and trailling, axle-back, etc.

OE PZero tires, OE clutch, OE trans, OE SS wheels

11s with OE tires are possible.

Camaro Dude · 01-23-2014, 02:31 PM

Would $2000-$2500 max in normally aspirated mods be enough to accomplish what I wrote above as something to shoot for?

I'm a bit scared that it won't, and I'll end up not only paying that, but the cost of going FI after the fact, hence why I want to be sure it can be done at this price point.

If not, then I'm going to save up and go FI.

HumanWiki · 01-23-2014, 02:33 PM

ProStockJohn can help you more there.. He's doing the bolt-on to 11s method and is much more knowledgeable there.

I went from stock to 660 crank in one shot, then added a bunch of suspension later, so while it can been done on OE tires, it's certainly more difficult to do and I spent about 5x that amount with all the parts/install then another 4k later in suspension before I sold and went to the Grand Sport.

01-23-2014, 10:58 AM	#17
camaro500 Drives: 2017 Jaguar F Type R Tuned 498awhp Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Canada Posts: 871 View My Garage	Let the competition begin! __________________ JRE cammed w.full bolt ons 444rwhp/422rwtq SOLD 2017 Jaguar F Type R ''Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.'' - F. Bueller

01-23-2014, 11:46 AM	#19
Smirnoff Drives: Camaro SS Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Motorcity Dragway Posts: 978	See signature.....plus drag radials/skinny fronts. __________________ 11.90's w/headers, CAI, custom tune, slicks/skinnys, shifter & 100+ Ethyl.

01-23-2014, 02:22 PM	#25
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	From a 40 roll, you'd be in 2nd gear so you'd need some traction (drag radials), make more power (headers, air intake, ported intake), and I think gear would be good too. There is a 12.8 stock posted for a 1LE, I think throw on some drag radials should be 12.4-12.5. Throw some bolt-ons on there and I think you'll be pretty strong. I don't see why you wouldn't pick up at least 5mph from bolt-ons. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

01-23-2014, 10:21 AM	#16
B-_-RAD Banned Drives: ... Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: ... Posts: 398	The cai/headers were just suggested as they really woke the car up imo.

01-23-2014, 11:35 AM	#18
wakespeak Drives: 2020 ZL1 1LE Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,335	The M5 has a higher redline with 560hp and 502ft/lbs at 1500 rpm. Just a little heavier. 0-60 in 4.4 secs, which the 1LE can do stock. "The car rides on 19-inch alloy wheels that reduce unsprung weight." The smaller diameter would give a slight boost to axle ratio. http://www.leftlanenews.com/new-car-...#ixzz2rFBTr5kz A ZL1 clone might be the answer: 0-60 in 3.9 secs/ qtr in 12.0. Traction must be the issue. GM performance parts has the LSA supercharger as a bolt on in their catalog if you want it dealer installed.

01-23-2014, 12:14 PM	#22
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	Procharger, headers, drag radials , tune, done....lol.

01-23-2014, 02:31 PM	#27
Camaro Dude Drives: ‘13 1LE Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Earth Posts: 3,904	Would $2000-$2500 max in normally aspirated mods be enough to accomplish what I wrote above as something to shoot for? I'm a bit scared that it won't, and I'll end up not only paying that, but the cost of going FI after the fact, hence why I want to be sure it can be done at this price point. If not, then I'm going to save up and go FI.

01-23-2014, 02:33 PM	#28
HumanWiki Drives: Car Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Place Posts: 3,361	ProStockJohn can help you more there.. He's doing the bolt-on to 11s method and is much more knowledgeable there. I went from stock to 660 crank in one shot, then added a bunch of suspension later, so while it can been done on OE tires, it's certainly more difficult to do and I spent about 5x that amount with all the parts/install then another 4k later in suspension before I sold and went to the Grand Sport.