N/A performance - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

jbrantner24 · 05-22-2013, 01:44 AM

So I have seen the fast list and people in mid 13's with bolt ons, tune and drag radials. So anyone else think its possible to make 12's with the same setup plus cams and taller gears? I believe it can be done.

LS1346CID · 05-22-2013, 02:09 PM

I would like to see that too!

LS3 Handler · 05-23-2013, 12:46 AM

Yea that would be nice i have thought about gettin a used V8 M6 diff and throwin that under mine to see if the gears would help get her going with losing to much MPG at cruseing speed.

KMPrenger · 05-23-2013, 09:41 AM

I think its a long shot, but MAYBE possible. We've had this discussion in the past.

Only one or two N/A Mustang V6s that I know of have ran into the very high 12s, which included full bolt ons, tune, gears, and rims/tires.

Due to the extra weight, I don't think we will ever see better than low 13s with the same mods. Add cams into that picture and then maybe someone could squeak out a 12. Cams have only been attempted in one V6 so far, and that is Yellow_Glide's 2010 V6. He seemed to pick up around 25 - 30 rwhp with the cams alone, but then they added ported high flow heads to the build and after that it never ran perfectly from what I can remember. I think it runs decent, but the tune or something is holding it back.

Not to mention the power is moved well up into the rpms range. Low end power is lost but peak power is higher and I think moved well into the 7,000+ rpm range.

IneedAZ · 05-23-2013, 11:07 AM

I heard there is a NA (just Bolt Ons)Camaro v6 running a 13.1 I havent personally spoken or seen this person, but thats what i was told. I will probably go run mine before i swap out for my new tires.

KMPrenger · 05-23-2013, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IneedAZ

I heard there is a NA (just Bolt Ons)Camaro v6 running a 13.1 I havent personally spoken or seen this person, but thats what i was told. I will probably go run mine before i swap out for my new tires.

Yep, Tracy has been saying that. But thats one of those I'll believe it when I see the proof type things for me.

SC2150 · 05-23-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Yep, Tracy has been saying that. But thats one of those I'll believe it when I see the proof type things for me.

Although I doubt you can give an example where I have ever posted something not accurate here, can you? His has the stock converter also, but we just did 3:55 gears from the 3:27's so he thinks he can beak into the 12's now. We will see, and it's FL summer heat and humidity now as well for him to fight. He should post today I hope.

Give me a NA car and the budget and I'll get one in the high 12's. Been doing this for over 38 years and our old bracket car made only 341 to the rear wheels and we ran mid 11's wining big$ bracket races all over the Eastern US for years (200k miles before we sold it, started racing it w/24k miles....several stories on it in different race magazines, etc. over the years).

So yes, I think we can see one, but not a run-of-the mill bolt on.

KMPrenger · 05-23-2013, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC2150

Although I doubt you can give an example where I have ever posted something not accurate here, can you? His has the stock converter also, but we just did 3:55 gears from the 3:27's so he thinks he can beak into the 12's now. We will see, and it's FL summer heat and humidity now as well for him to fight. He should post today I hope.

Give me a NA car and the budget and I'll get one in the high 12's. Been doing this for over 38 years and our old bracket car made only 341 to the rear wheels and we ran mid 11's wining big$ bracket races all over the Eastern US for years (200k miles before we sold it, started racing it w/24k miles....several stories on it in different race magazines, etc. over the years).

So yes, I think we can see one, but not a run-of-the mill bolt on.

Tracy, I wasn't calling you out. Anyone could be making those claims, but we need to SEE it as we have never seen anything close to it yet. So you can see where I'm coming from.

Hope to hear from this guy.

jbrantner24 · 05-24-2013, 01:19 AM

I believe it can be done. May take me a couple years but I'm planning on trying it.

SC2150 · 05-24-2013, 08:45 AM

Hopefully he will post his time slips. Left him a message yesterday.

05-22-2013, 01:44 AM	#1
jbrantner24 Drives: 2013 Camaro LS M6 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Menomonie, WI Posts: 59	N/A performance So I have seen the fast list and people in mid 13's with bolt ons, tune and drag radials. So anyone else think its possible to make 12's with the same setup plus cams and taller gears? I believe it can be done. __________________ K&N intake, Resonated X-pipe w/muffler delete, Trifecta Tune, rashes up sport muscle tachs.

05-22-2013, 02:09 PM	#2
LS1346CID Enjoying the lil things Drives: 2012 Camaro RS Loaded - Lil Red Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Lexington, Tx Posts: 20	I would like to see that too! __________________ It's all stock! With the exception of : BrakePerformance slotted and drilled rotors, K&N filter, other misc bolt on's, Tint, Clear Bra, WhiteOut emblems, Painted Calipers

05-23-2013, 09:41 AM	#4
KMPrenger Drives: 16 Camaro SS, 15 Colorado Join Date: May 2009 Location: Jefferson City, Missouri Posts: 13,943	I think its a long shot, but MAYBE possible. We've had this discussion in the past. Only one or two N/A Mustang V6s that I know of have ran into the very high 12s, which included full bolt ons, tune, gears, and rims/tires. Due to the extra weight, I don't think we will ever see better than low 13s with the same mods. Add cams into that picture and then maybe someone could squeak out a 12. Cams have only been attempted in one V6 so far, and that is Yellow_Glide's 2010 V6. He seemed to pick up around 25 - 30 rwhp with the cams alone, but then they added ported high flow heads to the build and after that it never ran perfectly from what I can remember. I think it runs decent, but the tune or something is holding it back. Not to mention the power is moved well up into the rpms range. Low end power is lost but peak power is higher and I think moved well into the 7,000+ rpm range. __________________ 2016 Camaro 1SS - 8-speed - NPP - Black bowties 2010 Camaro 1LT V6 (Sold. I will miss her!)

05-23-2013, 11:07 AM	#5
IneedAZ Drives: 2017 ZL1 A10 & 2021 BMW M340i x Dr Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,110 View My Garage	I heard there is a NA (just Bolt Ons)Camaro v6 running a 13.1 I havent personally spoken or seen this person, but thats what i was told. I will probably go run mine before i swap out for my new tires. __________________ Sold 2012 2LT RS 12.3@112 old setup Sold 1967 Camaro Pro Street. Ran 10's mild BB on NOS. 2017 HyperBlue ZL1 A10 Born 3/17/17Delivered 4/08/17 2020 Build: Mag2650, BTR Stage2, NW103, BG, 14% lower, 90mm upper, ARH 2" Long system w/no cats, SW Legend mufflers. 807hp/762tq on 93 gas and 848hp/792tq on e47 Sold 2018 (Go Mango) Dodge Charger Daytona 392 Daily Driver Daily Driver 2021 BMW M340i Xdrive

05-24-2013, 01:19 AM	#9
jbrantner24 Drives: 2013 Camaro LS M6 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Menomonie, WI Posts: 59	I believe it can be done. May take me a couple years but I'm planning on trying it. __________________ K&N intake, Resonated X-pipe w/muffler delete, Trifecta Tune, rashes up sport muscle tachs.

05-23-2013, 12:46 AM	#3
LS3 Handler I love the LS3 Drives: 2010 IOM 2SS Manual Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Washington NC Posts: 361	Yea that would be nice i have thought about gettin a used V8 M6 diff and throwin that under mine to see if the gears would help get her going with losing to much MPG at cruseing speed.

05-24-2013, 08:45 AM	#10
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	Hopefully he will post his time slips. Left him a message yesterday.