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ROD1 · 01-04-2012, 08:44 AM

After having to have my drive axles replaced, Im seriously reconsidering running nitrous any longer. I have put a total of about 25 runs on the strip using 75-150 shot. I really want to see where I can get with the 150 shot but Im wondering if it is worth it to take a chance especially with the engine issues that peeps are having. Your thoughts?

bigsquirrel · 01-04-2012, 09:14 AM

Risk = $ You're probably not gonna die but if you can't afford to fix it I'd pass on it.

hypurone · 01-04-2012, 09:19 AM

So, was it 11.5 or BUST that came first?

Just throw some better axles in and have at it if that is what makes you happy... Tho be prepared to pay the piper down the road as something else WILL break eventually.

scrming · 01-04-2012, 09:40 AM

Nitrous is a cruel mistress... The rush of the instant torque is very addicting. You will continue to push until you probably do break something.

Not sure if there are better axles for the automatic v6... Might also watch eBay for an inexpensive take out LLT. Probably cheaper and quicker to do a swap than fixing yours if you do break it.

Or like you said... Perhaps time to rethink the juice...

FDNY-L107 · 01-04-2012, 09:54 AM

I'm waiting on Nitro Dave to release his specific V6 plate system for the LLT and then limit to 100hp shots. IMO, there will be no other V6 specific system released safer and of higher quality than Dave's. I have a manual and not sure if having the SS rear will help, but heck, I'm more worried about the tranny blowing than the axles. Axles are cheap and would rather have those go before anything else.
And now that the V6 superchargers are going on....I'm really wondering how those V6 trannys and rear's will hold up. My sense is we will soon see a lot of broken parts. Time will tell....

scrming · 01-04-2012, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FDNY-L107

I'm waiting on Nitro Dave to release his specific V6 plate system for the LLT and then limit to 100hp shots. IMO, there will be no other V6 specific system released safer and of higher quality than Dave's. I have a manual and not sure if having the SS rear will help, but heck, I'm more worried about the tranny blowing than the axles. Axles are cheap and would rather have those go before anything else.
And now that the V6 superchargers are going on....I'm really wondering how those V6 trannys and rear's will hold up. My sense is we will soon see a lot of broken parts. Time will tell....

I would say the automatics are holding up pretty well. The clutch in the manuals seem to be an issue. Not sure well the tranny itself will do.

mydreamcar · 01-04-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by scrming

Nitrous is a cruel mistress... The rush of the instant torque is very addicting. You will continue to push until you probably do break something.

Not sure if there are better axles for the automatic v6... Might also watch eBay for an inexpensive take out LLT. Probably cheaper and quicker to do a swap than fixing yours if you do break it.

Or like you said... Perhaps time to rethink the juice...

So what is a safe amount. I was contemplating this down the road. Don't drive the car everyday. usually 1x a week at best. was think about a 35 shot for that whenever I feel like it hit. Cant see a 35 shot being bad over the long haul, could it.

h2oplay · 01-04-2012, 12:49 PM

What was the issue with the shafts? Are they weaker than the M6 or SS?

If you are not using an unusual amount of oil now, I wouldn't be concerned about the engine....

GretchenGotGrowl · 01-04-2012, 01:38 PM

The axles on the A6 V6 are puny. If you've got the money I'd get a used differential from an SS or a M6 V6 and put some good axles and a custom drive shaft on it. However, only you can decide it it is worth the time and money.

Inferno LSX · 01-04-2012, 01:46 PM

Can the rear drive train from a SS be swapped into a A6 LT? I'm gonna be upgrading soon and I'll have all the left over parts. Can the Axles be swapped if someone blows a stock A6 LT axle?

GretchenGotGrowl · 01-04-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Inferno LS3

Can the rear drive train from a SS be swapped into a A6 LT? I'm gonna be upgrading soon and I'll have all the left over parts. Can the Axles be swapped if someone blows a stock A6 LT axle?

Axles from the SS will not swap with the A6 V6 but they should work fine on the M6 V6 (they have the same differential). Several of us have swapped our pumpkin and axles with SS take offs. You have to change the drive shaft a bit, but it is doable. Sounds like you should PM Rod1 when you get ready to swap. What are you going with?

Inferno LSX · 01-04-2012, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GretchenGotGrowl

Axles from the SS will not swap with the A6 V6 but they should work fine on the M6 V6 (they have the same differential). Several of us have swapped our pumpkin and axles with SS take offs. You have to change the drive shaft a bit, but it is doable. Sounds like you should PM Rod1 when you get ready to swap. What are you going with?

Really looking at the Lingenfelter rear diff kit. If not I can trade in my DSS axels and get the DSS 9" kit.

SC2150 · 01-04-2012, 03:24 PM

For the V6's the V8 diff swap should be sufficient with some BMR parts.

The hubs on the auto V6 are smaller than the v8. To do the swap you need the V8 diff, axles, hubs (available from Gene@GMPartsHouse.com) and the driveshaft. The driveshaft separates and the V8 rear portion will fit the front of the V6.

I have a complete V8 diff, axles, driveshaft, etc. FS if anyone wants it.

GretchenGotGrowl · 01-04-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Inferno LS3

Really looking at the Lingenfelter rear diff kit. If not I can trade in my DSS axels and get the DSS 9" kit.

I looked at the Lingenfelter kit and like it.

01-04-2012, 08:44 AM	#1
ROD1 Retired Drives: 2010 Camaro RS V6 #1301 DOB 3/23/09 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 2,563	Might lose the Nitrous After having to have my drive axles replaced, Im seriously reconsidering running nitrous any longer. I have put a total of about 25 runs on the strip using 75-150 shot. I really want to see where I can get with the 150 shot but Im wondering if it is worth it to take a chance especially with the engine issues that peeps are having. Your thoughts?

01-04-2012, 09:14 AM	#2
bigsquirrel My car runs on acorns.... Drives: 2010 SS RS Inferno Orange Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 1,351 View My Garage	Risk = $ You're probably not gonna die but if you can't afford to fix it I'd pass on it. __________________ My car runs on acorns, the tears of ricers and these other slightly less important things... 2.9 Polished Whipple, Kooks LT 1 7/8 headers, HiFlow Cats, Kooks Sleeper catback, Cooling Mist Methanol Injection, PFADT Sport Sways, PFADT Springs, PFADT rear trailing arms, ADM intake, JDP stainless brake lines, Jegs Catch can, Stock SS wheels widened to 10 3/4, Hawks HPS Pads, Pedders Rear Subframe Bushing Inserts, BMR Center Brace, MSD BAP, AAC side markers, Emblem Pro's Custom Lighted Door Sills, Dash-Floor-Cupholder ABL lighting and other stuff....

01-04-2012, 09:19 AM	#3
hypurone I'm not totally useless.. Drives: ... Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: ... Posts: 2,008 View My Garage	So, was it 11.5 or BUST that came first? Just throw some better axles in and have at it if that is what makes you happy... Tho be prepared to pay the piper down the road as something else WILL break eventually. __________________ "You were really flyin' when I passed you back there!" - Born on 10/05/09 MyCamaroBuildInfo

01-04-2012, 09:40 AM	#4
scrming Red Brick of Vengeance! Drives: 12 Second Brick Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: at my pulpit Posts: 7,745	Nitrous is a cruel mistress... The rush of the instant torque is very addicting. You will continue to push until you probably do break something. Not sure if there are better axles for the automatic v6... Might also watch eBay for an inexpensive take out LLT. Probably cheaper and quicker to do a swap than fixing yours if you do break it. Or like you said... Perhaps time to rethink the juice... __________________ 2011 Ford Flex EcoBoost Limited - 12.727 @ 109.790 MPH

01-04-2012, 09:54 AM	#5
FDNY-L107 Drives: 2020 COPO #006 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Cecil County, Maryland Posts: 134	I'm waiting on Nitro Dave to release his specific V6 plate system for the LLT and then limit to 100hp shots. IMO, there will be no other V6 specific system released safer and of higher quality than Dave's. I have a manual and not sure if having the SS rear will help, but heck, I'm more worried about the tranny blowing than the axles. Axles are cheap and would rather have those go before anything else. And now that the V6 superchargers are going on....I'm really wondering how those V6 trannys and rear's will hold up. My sense is we will soon see a lot of broken parts. Time will tell.... __________________ 2020 COPO #006, John Force Edition 5.7 SC Gone, but not forgotten: 2019 ZL1 755WHP/782RWTQ 2011 LS V6 375HP, 6 speed 1994 Camaro V6, 5 speed 1985 IROC Z 5.0TPI (special factory ordered 1st new car) 1979 Z-28 4-speed 350 1975 Camaro 350 Auto (first car owned) RESERVED: 2023 Hummer EV 3X Pickup 2024 Hummer EV 3X SUV

01-04-2012, 12:49 PM	#8
h2oplay Winners find a way Drives: 2010 2LT/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,137	What was the issue with the shafts? Are they weaker than the M6 or SS? If you are not using an unusual amount of oil now, I wouldn't be concerned about the engine....

01-04-2012, 01:38 PM	#9
GretchenGotGrowl Drives: 11 F150 EB/13 Sonic RS/15 Z06 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 7,129 View My Garage	The axles on the A6 V6 are puny. If you've got the money I'd get a used differential from an SS or a M6 V6 and put some good axles and a custom drive shaft on it. However, only you can decide it it is worth the time and money. __________________ New Ride -- 2015 Z06 2LZ (stock) -- Journal Old Ride -- 2012 Camaro 2LT/RS (647 RWHP & 726 RWTQ) -- Build Thread

01-04-2012, 01:46 PM	#10
Inferno LSX Supercharged LSX Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Black/Carbon Fiber Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: City of Angels Posts: 6,741 View My Garage	Can the rear drive train from a SS be swapped into a A6 LT? I'm gonna be upgrading soon and I'll have all the left over parts. Can the Axles be swapped if someone blows a stock A6 LT axle? __________________

01-04-2012, 03:24 PM	#13
SC2150 Account Suspended Drives: 2012 Camaro RS, RX supercharged Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Bradenton, FL Posts: 6,063	For the V6's the V8 diff swap should be sufficient with some BMR parts. The hubs on the auto V6 are smaller than the v8. To do the swap you need the V8 diff, axles, hubs (available from Gene@GMPartsHouse.com) and the driveshaft. The driveshaft separates and the V8 rear portion will fit the front of the V6. I have a complete V8 diff, axles, driveshaft, etc. FS if anyone wants it.

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