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Old 10-11-2011, 08:51 PM   #29
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:07 PM   #30
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How many ponies?

Awesome.


What's in the wagon will help you deal with not matching the time for ZL1, no matter how many ponies you have. It has to turn to go around the track that fast.


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Old 10-11-2011, 11:08 PM   #31
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:19 PM   #32
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How much HP for the SS to run the same nurburgring time as the ZL1?

I want to say probably around 700. I'm talking no suspension mods just horsepower. Fun hypothetical!
I don't see any reason why an SS with upgraded suspension with equivalent tire dimensions wouldn't be able to do the same time with the same HP#'s as the ZL1.
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:37 PM   #33
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I don't see any reason why an SS with upgraded suspension with equivalent tire dimensions wouldn't be able to do the same time with the same HP#'s as the ZL1.
You can't say that in here, the ZL1 is God's gift to the automotive world!
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:43 PM   #34
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It very might be able to, with the right suspension and equivalent power it might be beat it. All bets are off when you started modding a car.

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How much HP for the SS to run the same nurburgring time as the ZL1?

I want to say probably around 700. I'm talking no suspension mods just horsepower. Fun hypothetical!

However, the question was how much power WITHOUT an equivalent suspension.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:03 AM   #35
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The SS stock suspension is terrible! It would be pointless the try and match ZL1 times by increasing power without upgrading suspension. Great question, but we all know it can't be done on stock springs and sways.
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Old 10-12-2011, 12:22 AM   #36
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700hp in a stock SS will put you right into the armco trying to match the ZL1 at the ring.
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Old 10-12-2011, 01:17 PM   #37
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You can't say that in here, the ZL1 is God's gift to the automotive world!
I hear you. Wondering if Pfadt or Pedders tried their vehicles on this track. I've done some searches and found the SS did the track around 8.19.
There's no reason why an upgraded suspension with some equal HP and TQ numbers couldn't match the ZL1.
Even if it fell short, I don't think the changes are that substantial that an SS could not have been designed orginally with proper suspension and an SC to perform equivalently.
It's obvious with stock suspension the SS doesn't handle well, it's the very first thing everyone complains about and ends up moding on their 2010 and up Camaro SS.
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Old 10-12-2011, 07:23 PM   #38
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I'm sure the Pfadt or Pedders Camaro would do very well. Those two do very well on the tracks.
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:57 AM   #39
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here. ill help the OP out.
Sell or trade your SS and get you a Zl1. problem solved.
Oh hey MY68RS did you ever figure out that the automatic had paddles? I never heard from you after I gave you proof :(
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Old 10-13-2011, 01:59 AM   #40
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The SS stock suspension is terrible! It would be pointless the try and match ZL1 times by increasing power without upgrading suspension. Great question, but we all know it can't be done on stock springs and sways.
Do you think yours would be close? It seems to have all the right parts!
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Old 10-13-2011, 12:13 PM   #41
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Too much power could hurt you. grip is what you would need more than power IMO.

I think a superchanged LS3 with the right suspention and brake upgrades would get the job done. possibly even modded N/A with the right suspension and brakes could come close.

I have an 07 Z06. Look at what the current Z06 carbon does. 07 time was 7:44 add better brakes and suspension with now power shaved 22 seconds. one of the downfalls of the first generation Z06 is the braking and grip over uneven surface. the new model solves those issue and is alot quicker around a track.

where the Zr-1 proabably almost has too much power at times so it is sketchy to drive at the limit. So over 100hp more doesnt translate into as fast of lap time as you would think.
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Old 10-13-2011, 02:09 PM   #42
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suspension (to include wheels and tires) is the answer to faster times around the ring...not HP. At around > 650 crank hp most 10-12 SS's are going to have more power than their suspension mods can fully utilize in the corners. I'm at 731 hp at the crank and I have a bit of chassis flex when I'm hard into it in the corners. So much so that my BMR drive shaft loop rubs and will be switching to a metco loop and probably getting a chassis flex brace from either BMR or someone else
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