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KaBoom1701 · 06-20-2016, 08:51 PM

What's the cost to do this?

On adverage. ...

CALLAWAY11 · 06-20-2016, 11:37 PM

I just recently did the flex fuel conversion. My first impressions are

What a difference, I gained about 100 whp but upped my boost by 2 pounds also. So I'm guessing around 50-60 whp because of E85. Since getting it, I filled my tank maybe 20 times and put 93 in it once, lol. And of course when I did put 93 in it, I ran into a high powered mustang where I could've used that extra horsepower. I doubt if I ever put 93 in it again, lol. E85 is awesome and very abundant where I live. I don't see much difference in price either. I know I go thru more but where I'm at, I can get for $1.99. And to answer kabooms question, what's the cost? There's a bunch of variables. I had 85# injectors, so I was good there. Where the real money lied in was the fuel pumps, I had to do the twin fuel pumps from Fore for e85. So it depends on where your car is at. If it's highly modded car, you might need injectors and a fuel pump. It was around $5K for mine. 1K for the flex fuel conversion, 2500-3000 for the pumps purchase and installed, plus odds and ends.

CALLAWAY11 · 06-20-2016, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 97ChameleonTA

I'm expecting 50+ to the wheels. And that's on a Mustang dyno. I'll be nothing short of pissed if it's only 30...

Just my .02 cents but as I'm sure you know, try not to get caught up in the numbers game. There is som many variables. When you duty of the car. You could dyno your car one day and then next day get 25 less hp. Go by how it feels. You should notice the difference, I know I did. I had my dyno last year before e 85 and got 607, then 3 months later, got 575. It didn't feel any different. So before you come guns a blazing, take it for a ride, then still not satisfied, start shooting, lol. But I'm positive your going to be happy. And you went big, triple file pumps and 1500 injectors

damn!

KyleT · 06-21-2016, 03:22 AM

Could I do the flex fuel conversion without adding a fuel pump? And just do ID850 injectors, E85 conversion kit and a tune?

Redlineviper · 06-21-2016, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KyleT

Could I do the flex fuel conversion without adding a fuel pump? And just do ID850 injectors, E85 conversion kit and a tune?

Unlikely, you would need a BAP at minimum.

97ChameleonTA · 06-21-2016, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2NASSTY

You'll love the Flex fuel conversion Marty! Should see max gains with your Chller setup and Matt's install.

Thanks man, can't wait!

97ChameleonTA · 06-21-2016, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CALLAWAY11

Just my .02 cents but as I'm sure you know, try not to get caught up in the numbers game. There is som many variables. When you duty of the car. You could dyno your car one day and then next day get 25 less hp. Go by how it feels. You should notice the difference, I know I did. I had my dyno last year before e 85 and got 607, then 3 months later, got 575. It didn't feel any different. So before you come guns a blazing, take it for a ride, then still not satisfied, start shooting, lol. But I'm positive your going to be happy. And you went big, triple file pumps and 1500 injectors

damn!

I know exactly what you mean, I go by track times. I never get hung up on the numbers, I was just saying a gain of only 30 would be extremely low for my setup.

97ChameleonTA · 06-21-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KyleT

Could I do the flex fuel conversion without adding a fuel pump? And just do ID850 injectors, E85 conversion kit and a tune?

You would be cutting it very close with a BAP and 850's.

KyleT · 06-21-2016, 11:49 AM

Ok, sounds good. Thanks for the info.

KaBoom1701 · 06-21-2016, 10:40 PM

What does this conversion cost?

97ChameleonTA · 06-22-2016, 09:08 AM

Sent you a PM.

Hocky · 06-22-2016, 10:40 AM

$400 for a plug and play flex fuel sensor, whatever you decide you need for fuel system, and appropriate tuning. It could be a lot or a little depending on where you're at.

Jeff_SS · 06-22-2016, 10:50 AM

So worth it. You'll love the gains. And the smell of e85 with no cats.
But be prepared to get about 14-16mpg lol

97ChameleonTA · 06-28-2016, 04:18 PM

Preliminary results are in. Picked up 54 RWHP and 45 RWTQ in the heat on a stingy Mustang dyno with 63% ethanol in the tank. Woot!

06-20-2016, 08:51 PM	#15
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	What's the cost to do this? On adverage. ... __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

06-20-2016, 11:37 PM	#16
CALLAWAY11 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Callaway Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Macomb, MI Posts: 631	I just recently did the flex fuel conversion. My first impressions are What a difference, I gained about 100 whp but upped my boost by 2 pounds also. So I'm guessing around 50-60 whp because of E85. Since getting it, I filled my tank maybe 20 times and put 93 in it once, lol. And of course when I did put 93 in it, I ran into a high powered mustang where I could've used that extra horsepower. I doubt if I ever put 93 in it again, lol. E85 is awesome and very abundant where I live. I don't see much difference in price either. I know I go thru more but where I'm at, I can get for $1.99. And to answer kabooms question, what's the cost? There's a bunch of variables. I had 85# injectors, so I was good there. Where the real money lied in was the fuel pumps, I had to do the twin fuel pumps from Fore for e85. So it depends on where your car is at. If it's highly modded car, you might need injectors and a fuel pump. It was around $5K for mine. 1K for the flex fuel conversion, 2500-3000 for the pumps purchase and installed, plus odds and ends. __________________ 2011 Callaway SC572 2SS/RS, TVS 2300 Supercharger, 1-7/8" Kooks LT Headers, Fast 85# injectors, E85 Flex Fuel Conversion, Fore Twin Fuel Pumps, MGW flat stick short throw shifter, McLeod RXT twin disc clutch, Liberty Gears Tremec trans, DSS 1000 hp axles, Nitto NT555r drag radials, 10#'s of boost, 702 rwhp/ 697 torque, Recaro seat upgrade

06-21-2016, 10:40 PM	#24
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,630	What does this conversion cost? __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

06-22-2016, 09:08 AM	#25
97ChameleonTA Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Valrico, FL Posts: 515	Sent you a PM. __________________ 2013 ZL1 Auto Convertible - BRM Best: 10.829@127.15 FI Interchiller, Roto-Fab CAI, Big Gulp & Res, 9.1/2.5 Pulleys, PB&S, DeatschWerks 1500cc, Fore triple pump, Pfadt LT's, RD HX, MT DR's New times to come with E85 2016 2SS Auto - Hyper Blue Metallic Roto-Fab CAI

06-22-2016, 10:50 AM	#27
Jeff_SS "Cam Only" Drives: 2013 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 1,708 View My Garage	So worth it. You'll love the gains. And the smell of e85 with no cats. But be prepared to get about 14-16mpg lol __________________ 2013 AGM Camaro 2SS/RS M6 \| LSA Blower, 2.5" pulley, 10% lower, FIC1000's, Fore Innovations Twin Pump fuel system w/ Flex Fuel, CMS Custom Grind Cam, Kooks 1 7/8" headers w/ catless off-road pipes, NPP Exhaust, 3.91's, JLT ZL1 Intake, Prospeed Heat Exchanger \| Pfadt Suspension, 1LE Sway Bars \| DSS 1000hp axles \| Tuned by Ryne @ CMS E85: 734rwhp/636rwtq (mustang dyno)

06-21-2016, 03:22 AM	#18
KyleT Drives: 2012 ZL1 #1304 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 17	Could I do the flex fuel conversion without adding a fuel pump? And just do ID850 injectors, E85 conversion kit and a tune?

06-21-2016, 11:49 AM	#23
KyleT Drives: 2012 ZL1 #1304 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Superior, WI Posts: 17	Ok, sounds good. Thanks for the info.

06-22-2016, 10:40 AM	#26
Hocky Drives: Cts-v2 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Fishers, IN Posts: 116	$400 for a plug and play flex fuel sensor, whatever you decide you need for fuel system, and appropriate tuning. It could be a lot or a little depending on where you're at.

06-28-2016, 04:18 PM	#28
97ChameleonTA Drives: 2013 ZL1 Convertible Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Valrico, FL Posts: 515	Preliminary results are in. Picked up 54 RWHP and 45 RWTQ in the heat on a stingy Mustang dyno with 63% ethanol in the tank. Woot! __________________ 2013 ZL1 Auto Convertible - BRM Best: 10.829@127.15 FI Interchiller, Roto-Fab CAI, Big Gulp & Res, 9.1/2.5 Pulleys, PB&S, DeatschWerks 1500cc, Fore triple pump, Pfadt LT's, RD HX, MT DR's New times to come with E85 2016 2SS Auto - Hyper Blue Metallic Roto-Fab CAI