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camaropop · 07-31-2013, 11:47 AM

How do i fix this? The first time it shifts to 3rd gear it flares. Has anyone else had this problem and what did you do to correct it?

BLACK10 · 07-31-2013, 12:59 PM

Tune issue

2SSCAMARO · 07-31-2013, 04:00 PM

The 2-3 clutches are often the ones to give out first. The 6L80 tranny is not very forgiving if tuned improperly. It may already be too late to reprogram the TCM. If you have flared the 2-3 shift several times, you will most likely have to have the tranny rebuilt.

Motion427 · 07-31-2013, 04:14 PM

Have the fluid checked.These tranny's are picky with the transmission level.
Had 1 doing the same thing with a customers Camaro,it will only do it in the morning when it shifted in 3rd. It was low in fluid.Filled it up,and it cured it.
May not be your problem,but would be the first thing to check.

mike@newera · 07-31-2013, 04:22 PM

I have also seen low fluid cause this, as well as tuning.

Rhino79 · 07-31-2013, 04:53 PM

And both of those can cause premature clutch wear!

Mr. Nasty · 07-31-2013, 05:20 PM

Mine started on the 3 to 4 shift down hill from there.

camaropop · 08-02-2013, 11:47 PM

It has an external tranny cooler on it. Would it need some pressures turned up?

dan0617 · 08-03-2013, 09:45 PM

Jannetty turned up the pressure on mine and tuned alot of other things with it as well. So far it's holding up to 12psi and the occasional 125 shot.

drumsbh · 08-03-2013, 10:46 PM

I know with our 6L80 trans for the G8's which I believe is the same for you guys? We have a 3-4th shift flare the first time e turn the car on. After it gets into 4th the first time it works perfect after. So at the drag strip we do a manual burnout through 1-4th and roll out of the box in 4th and since then trans has seen 4th it's fine. We have been told it's a safety thing that GM implemented into our trans. We have a good thread about it on our Grrrr8 and g8board forums but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link them here or not? It is NOT a tuning issue for us. Like I said, after it sees 4th once from a turn of the key it then works fine. Can you guys confirm on your camaros as well?

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dan0617 · 08-04-2013, 08:18 AM

I don't think mine does that.

Has your tuner set new parameters for your trans or are you running the stock trans settings?

Is your fluid level full plus a quart? I installed a Lokar dipstick and right to the full mark on it is 1qt over what you have if filled from GM.

camaropop · 08-04-2013, 09:31 AM

Thats exactly what mine does

east TX Muscle cars · 08-05-2013, 11:32 AM

thats in the tune unless you have damaged the 3-4 already. the 6l80, as stated, is VERY picky to the tuning and fluid levels.

LSX-80MM · 08-06-2013, 12:20 AM

Trust me it's on it's way out.

07-31-2013, 11:47 AM	#1
camaropop Drives: 2010 Camaro ss eforce Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: United States Posts: 84	flare when shifts to 3rd gear only the first time it shifts How do i fix this? The first time it shifts to 3rd gear it flares. Has anyone else had this problem and what did you do to correct it?

07-31-2013, 05:20 PM	#7
Mr. Nasty Emerald Coast Camaros Drives: 2010 RS/SS Rally Yellow & 68 SS Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Woodville,FL. Posts: 1,814	Mine started on the 3 to 4 shift down hill from there. __________________ Best @ 586/525 =10.41 @ 133 AS OF 12/13/14>633 RWHP =10.22@135 AS OF 1/31/15 @ 633 RWHP=10.16@135 AS OF 1/29/16 @ 633 RWHP=10.10@136 TOPED 700 PASSES AFTER F.I. AND STILL ON THE ORIGIANAL STOCK AXLE & DIFF

08-03-2013, 09:45 PM	#9
dan0617 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tyrone, PA Posts: 640 View My Garage	Jannetty turned up the pressure on mine and tuned alot of other things with it as well. So far it's holding up to 12psi and the occasional 125 shot. __________________ 2011 SS IOM Vert. ECS Vortech 13+ psi, Water/Meth, ID850’s, ZL1 pump with MSD Voltage Booster, 2800 stall, LT headers, Drag radials, Drag alignment, Cradle Bushings. A million other supporting mods. Tuned by Ted.

08-03-2013, 10:46 PM	#10
drumsbh Drives: 08' Pontiac G8 GT Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: SE MN Posts: 53	I know with our 6L80 trans for the G8's which I believe is the same for you guys? We have a 3-4th shift flare the first time e turn the car on. After it gets into 4th the first time it works perfect after. So at the drag strip we do a manual burnout through 1-4th and roll out of the box in 4th and since then trans has seen 4th it's fine. We have been told it's a safety thing that GM implemented into our trans. We have a good thread about it on our Grrrr8 and g8board forums but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link them here or not? It is NOT a tuning issue for us. Like I said, after it sees 4th once from a turn of the key it then works fine. Can you guys confirm on your camaros as well? Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2 __________________ 08' Pontiac G8 GT 11.32@121.66 Rock Falls Raceway 10-11-14 - Kooks 1 7/8 LT's - Kooks 3" X - Kooks Mufflers - Vararam CAI - HSRK - 160° T-Stat - UDP - 3.45 Camaro Diff - Rick Crawford Modified "Air Ram" Intake and TB - Tuned by Rick Crawford - Lunati Crawford Spec'd Cam - LS3 Heads Ported and Milled by Rick Crawford (G8-4-Speed) - Coan Stall

08-04-2013, 08:18 AM	#11
dan0617 Drives: 2011 Inferno Orange SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tyrone, PA Posts: 640 View My Garage	I don't think mine does that. Has your tuner set new parameters for your trans or are you running the stock trans settings? Is your fluid level full plus a quart? I installed a Lokar dipstick and right to the full mark on it is 1qt over what you have if filled from GM. __________________ 2011 SS IOM Vert. ECS Vortech 13+ psi, Water/Meth, ID850’s, ZL1 pump with MSD Voltage Booster, 2800 stall, LT headers, Drag radials, Drag alignment, Cradle Bushings. A million other supporting mods. Tuned by Ted.

07-31-2013, 12:59 PM	#2
BLACK10 Drives: 2010 CAMARO. 10.04@133mph, 1.4 60' Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lafayette, Louisiana Posts: 4,585	Tune issue

07-31-2013, 04:00 PM	#3
2SSCAMARO Drives: 2010 Camaro Auto Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Fl Posts: 1,164	The 2-3 clutches are often the ones to give out first. The 6L80 tranny is not very forgiving if tuned improperly. It may already be too late to reprogram the TCM. If you have flared the 2-3 shift several times, you will most likely have to have the tranny rebuilt.

07-31-2013, 04:14 PM	#4
Motion427 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Red Jewel L99 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NB,Canada Posts: 834	Have the fluid checked.These tranny's are picky with the transmission level. Had 1 doing the same thing with a customers Camaro,it will only do it in the morning when it shifted in 3rd. It was low in fluid.Filled it up,and it cured it. May not be your problem,but would be the first thing to check.

07-31-2013, 04:22 PM	#5
mike@newera Drives: 2016 Camaro SS Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 529	I have also seen low fluid cause this, as well as tuning.

07-31-2013, 04:53 PM	#6
Rhino79 Drives: 2010 Camaro SS L99/Auto Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 2,827 View My Garage	And both of those can cause premature clutch wear!

08-02-2013, 11:47 PM	#8
camaropop Drives: 2010 Camaro ss eforce Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: United States Posts: 84	It has an external tranny cooler on it. Would it need some pressures turned up?

08-04-2013, 09:31 AM	#12
camaropop Drives: 2010 Camaro ss eforce Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: United States Posts: 84	Thats exactly what mine does

08-05-2013, 11:32 AM	#13
east TX Muscle cars Drives: 2x 05 Vettes/65'AC cobra/68 camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LONGVIEW, TEXAS Posts: 845	thats in the tune unless you have damaged the 3-4 already. the 6l80, as stated, is VERY picky to the tuning and fluid levels.

08-06-2013, 12:20 AM	#14
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