10-22-2013, 11:00 AM | #1 |
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Braking: Performance vs Noise
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i've been suffering from my braking system since a while. I have started tuning my 2lt Camaro and till now have around 400HP. My GM Pads are not performing well anymore. I moved to Raybestos Ceramic then Wagner Quick Stop ceramic. I got very poor performance. Even after installing a brand new R1 concept rotors. Last week i went for HAWK Pro-Plus ferro-carbon pads. i have to say they were soooo performing wow! but they produced an ultra high noise that i really couldnt support in my ears. very very high, louder than my borla exhaust. I tried to wear them a bit but with no noticeable results. So now i am researching again and dropped on the HAWK HPS pads, that are a bit less performance than the PRO PLUS, but still on the website they say that they are "Virtually noise-free". has anyone tried them? or any one with a solution for the PRO PLUS extreme loud noise? any work around ? oh and a question: Performance vs Noise what would you choose would you go excellent powerful braking with high noise that makes u look like driving an old car... or sacrifice a little performance to get a mixture of good braking and ride comfort ? |
10-22-2013, 11:14 AM | #2 |
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I have the Hawks HPS and they squeal like hell. But IDGAF because I just want to watch the world burn.
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10-22-2013, 11:22 AM | #3 |
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10-22-2013, 12:42 PM | #4 |
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Are you still on the stock v6 calipers?
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10-22-2013, 12:50 PM | #5 |
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I have the HPS Ferro-carbon on my charger right now, also had them on a firebird mated with EBC rotors and my dodge truck. Best braking combo I've ever had was the hawk pads with EBC rotors. I have never had any brake noise from hawk pads. You must follow their burnishing instructions to a TEE. Also, make sure you use the grease they supply! On the backs of the pads and all around the edge, where the metal backing plate meets the calipers!!
If you install them and brake them in correctly you should never have brake chatter/noise. Take them off and check for cracking on the pad surface. If there is ANY cracking, send them back defective. My experience? I'm a parts pro and sales manager at a retailer, Advance Auto Parts. For two years now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free
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Yes still on stock calipers
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10-22-2013, 02:16 PM | #8 |
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Hawk HPS suck and intermittently sound like a dump truck braking. They'll be quiet for days then all of a sudden go into dump truck mode - usually when you're trying to look cool next to a hot chick.
The only good thing about them is they are virtually dust free. Performance sucks compared to stock pads and noisier. |
10-22-2013, 02:17 PM | #9 |
I agree the grease is a must on the back of the pads mating the pistons. Make sure it is coated good. Then make sure you follow the proper bedding in process for the pads which usually involves some pretty hard stops.
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10-22-2013, 02:21 PM | #10 |
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Going with ceramic pads always trades off performance for less dust and quietness. Have you thought of acquiring some used SS brakes? They are more than capable of handling your level of power with oem pads.
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10-23-2013, 10:48 AM | #12 |
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hard stops are bad for bedding new pads. only nice and easy stops for about the first 50-100 miles.
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10-23-2013, 11:17 AM | #13 |
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I've never had squeaks with my Hawks before. Guess I'm lucky? But I like them
and I've always broken in pads hard never easy. But I could be wrong
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10-23-2013, 12:58 PM | #14 |
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With the Hawk HPS pads, it's all in how you bed them in and grease the backs, pins, retainers, etc.. If you do not do it properly you will have noisy brakes, If you do then they are very quiet and have great stopping power with less dust than stock. The HP Plus will squeak no matter what you do; that's just the nature of the pad.
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