07-23-2016, 05:46 PM | #1 |
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5th gen zl1 vs 6 gen SS impression
Picked up my zl1 at the garage a few days ago for repairs and had the opportunity to examine and reflect on the newly designed 2016 camaro. Struck up a conversation with my sales agent from which i purchased my zl1. I lead him to believe that I may be interested in a trade in. He somehow indirectly tried to discourage me from giving back my zl1. Interesting reaction.
Basically both cars are practically identical in size. The rounded edges on the new car is quite obvious but still to a milder degree carries over the look of the first gen. The front lost its aggressiveness and the rear became a bit generic. Not sure if it looks american or a bit japanese. For a camaro fan and first time buyer, I am sure this new 6th gen will be quite satisfying. less wt, more power, more technology. But for me the new 6th gen does not leave its mark in terms of look. It doesn't give you that muscle car presence anymore. Probably and purposefully done to cater to a more general international (european) market and probably to both female and male buyers. For all those 5th gen owners, keep your 5th gen, it's a generation that will be admired by camaro fans for many years to come. Again the 6th gen is a fantasitc car but for me, it does not offer enough of a wow effect to upgrade my car. Can't wait to see the next revision of the 6th gen. Would love to see something based on the second gen in some distant future. We will see the sales of the new camaro vs the mustang and challengers, That's a more objective way to see if gm succeeded or stumbled. |
07-23-2016, 06:48 PM | #2 |
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6 gen is built for the next generation! Not my choice but that is OK, I'm an old duffer. I like the 5th gen because it reminds me of the Camaros when I was young. The next gen wants something different, something that they will remember when they are my age, something they call their own. When I look at a 5th gen I think of the old muscle cars. When I look at the 6th gen with the aggressive front end, I think more of the new trend in vehicles today. Nothing wrong with that, but it just looses the muscle car feeling of years ago. This is the Camaro for the next generation and that is fine. It's their muscle car and I understand that. Just not what this old dude is looking for. Both are excellent vehicles.
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07-25-2016, 12:37 AM | #3 | |
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07-25-2016, 12:33 PM | #6 | |
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07-25-2016, 03:49 PM | #7 |
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whats a Man Bun ??
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07-25-2016, 04:01 PM | #8 |
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the 5th gen especially the zl1 shows its presence as a unique car on the streets, the 6th gen somehow blends in with traffic, that was my impression seeing 6 gen at a red light
Hope to see one day a camaro based on the second gen. Those were really nice back then. The drive train of the zl1 is bulletproof, performs no matter how much we abuse them. Doesn't break, doesn't over heat, transmission is tough. differential belongs on a big truck. The new 6th gen has 300 pounds less materials. It is lighter and faster but what is the compromise ? |
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10-04-2016, 11:28 AM | #11 |
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last night driving my truck, I noticed a young couple driving a brand new mustang. as he drove away I was shocked to see it was the new 6th generation camaro. The ironic thing is that I am a zl1 owner.
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10-04-2016, 12:29 PM | #12 |
Hilarity. Man buns.
As this is my first Camaro (2013) I can't claim to be a long time Camaro fan, though I've always been interested in them. Just never ticked that box "good on a road course". Until Gen5 1LE. Yes I know you can take pretty much any gen Camaro and mod it to be good at your chosen task. From my old perspective, Camaros were either for roll racing, beat up V6 rs from the 80's, or very nice and expensive collectors cars from the late 60's. Or strippers. I think the new gens look pretty good still but I see where you are coming from, they are trending towards...trendy looks. At the end of the day, the Camaro is still going to attract a specific group of people that want a muscle car. And strippers. Hell the new Corvette looks like a Euro sports car now...which I think is awesome. I can consider one without opening up the top 3 buttons of my shirt. (joking) |
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10-04-2016, 01:35 PM | #13 |
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I had a chance to choose which version I wanted to go with. After sitting in the Gen6, it felt to tight and looked just overall smaller is size then the Gen5. The Gen5 felt just right... so that's what I got.
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10-04-2016, 03:58 PM | #14 |
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LOL! Man bun = douche knob...
We have a 2016 SS in our stable but it happens to be the wife's daily driver. It's an alright car all around but definitely smaller and more, uh, european....
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