Red Light Rule Change V8 Fast List - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Merc · 04-27-2013, 12:01 PM

As most people know I have taken over the task of keeping up the V8 Fast List's and for the most part left the rules as they were.

However with the recent world record re-set for a IRS 5th Gen Camaro by Darth Emma we ran into a dilemma. Darth Emma's time of 8.474 @ 168.03 MPH was recognized on this site as the record, but not on the Official 1/4 Mile V8 Fast list. Although Darth Emma owns the #1 spot at the top with a back up run. I believe it's only fair to change that time to reflect the 8.474 run.

For any other Member that the RED LIGHT RULE has affected in the past I will adjust the Fast List's if the Member can re-post the time slip or supply the number for the original post.

white ZL1 · 04-27-2013, 12:19 PM

Definitely the right move.

dekan513 · 04-27-2013, 12:27 PM

ya, alot of ppl that test adn tune, red light just tryin to do whatever or just dont feel like waiting . thats a wise move to make. i sure alot of other fast list do the same.

Camarojt · 04-27-2013, 12:56 PM

Good decision!! Now I can practice cutting a better light without the worry of not making an official fast list pass.

Merc · 04-27-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Camarojt

Good decision!! Now I can practice cutting a better light without the worry of not making an official fast list pass.

When I'm trying for a fast pass in Pumpkin, I don't leave til I'm ready.

Pro Stock John · 04-27-2013, 06:11 PM

Glad to see this change.

Quick · 04-27-2013, 06:19 PM

good decision...redlight or not...you still ran the time.

trw427ss · 04-27-2013, 06:51 PM

Glad to see you have rethought that old rule!! Good Job Merc.

429 · 04-27-2013, 08:11 PM

there wasnt ever a reason to have more then one fast list thread anyway. we have like five. pointless

unforgiven · 04-27-2013, 08:22 PM

merc caved I see.

interesting timing.

MikeOD · 05-03-2013, 09:47 AM

The red light rule was useless...reaction time has always had no effect on ET.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 429

there wasnt ever a reason to have more then one fast list thread anyway. we have like five. pointless

YUP!!!

Merc · 11-03-2013, 07:18 AM

Pro Stock John · 11-03-2013, 07:41 AM

double amen.

HRD_WRK · 11-04-2013, 12:30 PM

Thanks for the bump- I didnt see this before.

This rule change is great for new drivers, not so good for those of earlier- when their car was fresh and running Stock Class.
This is where many of us not only learned to drive our 5th Gens, but also learned how to launch/run the lights. Unfortunately, I'm sure many of us had some lower ETs than our PBests listed, but tossed the slips since they were Redlights. IMO in fairness, the Stock Class should be locked due to the long history, and Red lights excluded.

Overall to me, Red lights are part of the Event and should be DQ'd just like they are when Racing (been there). They're not allowed in Qualifying sessions either. Its the responsibility of the driver to run Red free, just as it is not to cross the center line, etc. I think we all would agree our best run would be when we run alone, or leave as soon as we are at optimum rpm and temps-not waiting another AIT raising /2step or transbreak loading 1.5 seconds later (full tree). The wait and stress at the tree is part of what makes a PB respectable. Seems like those slips should be on the Un-official list.

Now, I wouldn't have to look like a newbie and get smoked at the track cause I wait longer for the light when I try for Pbests. But for me, I will only post Valid slips and acknowledge those of the same.

Respectfully, my opinions are NOT ill willed or directed towards anyone, especially Merc nor Darth Emma - both of which I get along with.

Thanks again Merc for all you do for this forum.

04-27-2013, 12:27 PM	#3
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04-27-2013, 06:11 PM	#6
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	Glad to see this change. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

04-27-2013, 06:19 PM	#7
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04-27-2013, 06:51 PM	#8
trw427ss Drives: 2013 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Denham Springs La. Posts: 811	Glad to see you have rethought that old rule!! Good Job Merc. __________________ 2013 2SS/RS L99/A6 Crystal Red Metallic Tincoat 12.76@108.98mph Bone Stock 12.46@111.19mph with New Era CAI & U/D Pulley 12.12 @ 114.16 after Stainless Power headers and no tune yet on stock P-Zero's! 12.007@ 115.20 With 18" Drag Radials - 11.93 @115.19 Added a PTB 11.76 @116.59 With Yank SS3200 Converter - 11.63 @116.52 After PI and Tuning 11.44 @118.75 New Best 10.72 @127.93 after heads and Cam and Yank SS3600

11-03-2013, 07:18 AM	#12
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04-27-2013, 12:01 PM	#1
Merc In The Circle Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SSRS IOM M6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Abbotsford BC Canada Posts: 11,291	Red Light Rule Change V8 Fast List As most people know I have taken over the task of keeping up the V8 Fast List's and for the most part left the rules as they were. However with the recent world record re-set for a IRS 5th Gen Camaro by Darth Emma we ran into a dilemma. Darth Emma's time of 8.474 @ 168.03 MPH was recognized on this site as the record, but not on the Official 1/4 Mile V8 Fast list. Although Darth Emma owns the #1 spot at the top with a back up run. I believe it's only fair to change that time to reflect the 8.474 run. For any other Member that the RED LIGHT RULE has affected in the past I will adjust the Fast List's if the Member can re-post the time slip or supply the number for the original post. __________________ My Build Thread Last edited by Merc; 11-03-2013 at 07:19 AM.

04-27-2013, 12:19 PM	#2
white ZL1 Drives: none Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: DFW area Posts: 1,844	Definitely the right move.

04-27-2013, 12:56 PM	#4
Camarojt Drives: 2011camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Allen, Tx Posts: 2,202	Good decision!! Now I can practice cutting a better light without the worry of not making an official fast list pass.

04-27-2013, 08:11 PM	#9
429 Account Suspended Drives: 2010 camaro ss Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Richmond Hill, GA Posts: 726	there wasnt ever a reason to have more then one fast list thread anyway. we have like five. pointless

04-27-2013, 08:22 PM	#10
unforgiven Account Suspended Drives: 2011 ss Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: canada Posts: 125	merc caved I see. interesting timing.

11-03-2013, 07:41 AM	#13
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	double amen. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

11-04-2013, 12:30 PM	#14
HRD_WRK HARD WORKING PATRIOT Drives: 2011 CAMARO 2SS RS-AUTO Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: IOWA Posts: 367	Thanks for the bump- I didnt see this before. This rule change is great for new drivers, not so good for those of earlier- when their car was fresh and running Stock Class. This is where many of us not only learned to drive our 5th Gens, but also learned how to launch/run the lights. Unfortunately, I'm sure many of us had some lower ETs than our PBests listed, but tossed the slips since they were Redlights. IMO in fairness, the Stock Class should be locked due to the long history, and Red lights excluded. Overall to me, Red lights are part of the Event and should be DQ'd just like they are when Racing (been there). They're not allowed in Qualifying sessions either. Its the responsibility of the driver to run Red free, just as it is not to cross the center line, etc. I think we all would agree our best run would be when we run alone, or leave as soon as we are at optimum rpm and temps-not waiting another AIT raising /2step or transbreak loading 1.5 seconds later (full tree). The wait and stress at the tree is part of what makes a PB respectable. Seems like those slips should be on the Un-official list. Now, I wouldn't have to look like a newbie and get smoked at the track cause I wait longer for the light when I try for Pbests. But for me, I will only post Valid slips and acknowledge those of the same. Respectfully, my opinions are NOT ill willed or directed towards anyone, especially Merc nor Darth Emma - both of which I get along with. Thanks again Merc for all you do for this forum. __________________ Long time avid daily reader -thanks to all for your helpful threads! Bolt ons, Stock Torq Converter - 11.810 & 116.21 Last edited by HRD_WRK; 11-04-2013 at 06:28 PM. Reason: spelling