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Quote from a recent review that was of all the Gen 5 V8 cars run at one track with a few Mustangs too. "Around the 2.9 mile test loop, Chevy compared the Z/28 to some interesting benchmarks – its siblings, the 1LE and ZL1, and its arch enemies, the Mustang GT500 and Boss 302 Laguna Seca. Interestingly, the car with the most power, the GT500, also posted the slowest lap time, clocking a 1:59.97. The Laguna Seca did a bit better, running a 1:59.05, followed by the 1LE at 1:58.85. Despite the intensely technical nature of the test track, the ZL1 was still able to use its superior horsepower compared to the 1LE to run a faster 1:56.58, but it was the Z/28 that delivered the best time at a mere 1:53.71." On a technical track the ZL1 is 2.27 seconds faster than a 1LE. (Which is about the same as the 2.87 seconds between the ZL1 and Z28.) On a long course like The Ring which has a ton of high speed zones it will not even be close. The ZL1 with an extra 154hp, better brakes, better cooling and no speed limiter the 1LE not even in the same league. Sorry. It would be like a ZL1 guy arguing that his car can beat a Z28. If both cars are factory stock not see much of a chance of a ZL1 beating the Z28 at The Ring. With better tires a ZL1 could do better. Do all the lighting steps on a ZL1 that was done on a Z28 and again it could be a ton closer..... but then it would be a modded car. Modded does not count when comparing stock cars. Stock Gen5 Camaro on a road course the Z28 > ZL1 > 1LE > SS. EDIT My guess is the 1LE would be a solid low 8 minute car at The Ring. Best run I would say the car might dip below 8 minutes but just barely.
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10-22-2013, 02:42 PM | #399 |
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If they had done the car as a "body in white" car like the COPO it would have worked that way.
Guess to follow tradition of the Gen 1 Z28 they retained the ability to register the car for street driving.
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I have heard that GM does a lot of substitution on cars when testing. For instance, they have substituted LS7's with added cam etc to emulate the horsepower of an LSA while testing other components. But might they have tested the ZL1 chassis with the stock SS engine at some point (before it was even named 1LE). Dunno, but I bet they have tested that configuration somehow... maybe at the Ring too in wrap mode. Anyone from GM that's in the know may be able to enlighten us!
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If the unmentionable Ford fanboy is bashing the Z/28 that in of itself makes it a success. If he hates it that's a BIG HURRAY for Camaro lovers!
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what does the list include if it runs that 6 seconds faster on a dry track?
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What do you mean?
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like how Top Gear gives +/- depending on the weather
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