My thoughts of the 2014 Camaro and the Z/28...... - Page 7 - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

stratman2SSRS · 03-30-2013, 07:32 PM

Scott, thanks for all your hard work and the time you spend keeping the Camaro faithfull informed and supporting and promoting our favourite car.
You guys nailed the 2010 Camaro so well that any change you make will take time to be accepted. You designed the perfect Camaro, then went out of the park with the ZL1.
The performance of the Z/28 is awesome!!
The changes to the front, rear, and hood will take a little time to get used to just because it is different, not bad.
I wasn't sure if I liked my new beard, but it grew on me.
Funds permitting, I'd love to add a Z/28 to the collection (4 Camaro's and a T/A), but I'd keep my Lingenfelter too.

CrimsonHowitzer · 03-30-2013, 07:35 PM

One word, respect

Thank you Scott!

90503 · 03-30-2013, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

I am curious now though if a "Z28" will ever resurface? Now that I think about it Dodge has done the same thing with there Dodge Charger line up offering the Dodge R/T(chrome letters) and Dodge R/T(red letters) "Road and track" performance package. 1 model using 2 different trim levels with the same name plate sort to speak.

Can a Z28 and Z/28 coexist, is my only question regarding the matter?

Thank you, Scott once again for the opportunity to even own such an amazing car. Well built, well recognized and just a well built machine. #teamcamaroFTW

I hear what you're saying but I doubt we'll see a Z28...The whole jist of why they went Z/28 was to not repeat watering down the name again, like just go with the badging thing...and it not really being a "Top-Gun"...
...Wouldn't mind seeing an LS7 in a run-of-the-mill SS though!...lol...

cbass · 03-30-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ1034

I must say, I agree with Scott that too often, peoples opinions are not very polite in their presentation, which is a fancy way of saying rude, uninformed and hostile. It's not impolite to say "I liked the old design better" or something, but really, swearing at the guys doing all the work is just wrong.

I think this is the real problem. The rudeness. Some of the comments were brutal and it's like some of these people were asking for these guys heads on plates. I think some of it was out of hand.

Personally, I like the front end of the 2014 better although I liked the taller grill of the 2013 better.

I like the 2013 tail lights better, but the 2014 spoiler better.

It's also great that recaro's are now an option after people wanting them for years.

rtcat600man · 03-30-2013, 07:43 PM

BRAVO............Thank - you Scott for the writing. Thank - you GM for the time and patience to create the Buzz about the Z/28.

For those who don't like it, you can always go down the street and buy a Mustang, or any other brand that you feel pours more HEART and SOUL into their beloved pony car.

OldScoolCamaro · 03-30-2013, 07:43 PM

Scott, thanks for talking the time to address us. The Camaro Team's dilligence, commitment, and conscientious attention to history and detail has made the Z/28 a product for all Camaro fans to behold. It's quite an accomplishment. Congratulations for surprising us all, and going big with the vision in returning our iconic name. Thank you, and I am further looking forward to future releases with much anticipation.

super60 · 03-30-2013, 07:51 PM

Scott

Great comments & from the heart as always

I too was amazed at some of the truly negitive comments regarding the SS refresh that were being thrown about , only to have some of these very same people 24hrs later praise the car they just comparied to the Titanic !

Everyone at GM , Team Chevrolet ,Team Camaro & The Oshawa Build Team have done a fantastic job on the 5thGen and the 2014 is no different , these groups of vehicles still command respect on the street and always bring a smile to everyone i show the car off to ( i've got a company SS this weekend and i swear every kid playing road hockey today in Oshawa stopped and gave me two thumbs up

) Its a great feeling that i can show off our Camaro to future enthusiasts !

And Scott for what it's worth , if i was an American i'd vote for you as President

Best Regards from Canada

Mike Judge
Super60

steel insane · 03-30-2013, 07:55 PM

I do appreciate your hard work, your honesty, and participation, especially here.

However, hope springs eternal is the proper motto here... sales will tell whether or not these changes are successful.

I think it was a good 4 year run & Version 5's model time is coming to an end.

Of course, that's my $.02 & they do not represent all Camaro enthusiasts....

DanSS24 · 03-30-2013, 07:58 PM

Thank you for the history lesson, F-bod Father. The Z/28 has finally shined.

ThaCamaroKid · 03-30-2013, 08:09 PM

You can never please everybody, We all have our opinions as far as looks/performance and whatever else. I like some things on the new Camaro more and some on mine more, just as everybody else does. I'd say GM ( and yourself and your team ) have done a fantastic job, no individual who insults GM could have done any better themselves. Hundreds of thousands, even millions of Camaro fans and you have to pick a single body style to go with? and just a few sub models? most would pass or fail and give up, I think true Camaro fanatics understand that, and respect the work you all do. NOTHING puts a bigger grin on my face than cruising in my SS, and I am sure most feel the same. And we all Thank you,

With that said, is there any way I could get a Z/28?

360ss · 03-30-2013, 08:10 PM

Thanks for laying the hammer down on these rubber ducks . I'm back quiet!!!!

SilverSurfer21 · 03-30-2013, 08:11 PM

Scott, I mean you no disrespect. But being a retired GM Engineering veteran of over 30 years and having bought a brand new 1973 Z28 in 1973 at 19 years old I can,'t hold back my opinion. When I first saw the 1968 Camaro I was a huge fan at 15 years old. I had to have a Camaro. I am now 59, soon to be 60 and through the years I watched the Camaro grow uglier and uglier with every change. This was partly because GM would cut funding half way into a design change and ruin the recipe. I watched it with the Oldsmobile Cutlass too. It was horrible to watch great cars ruined by bean counters instead of creative designers.

The reason the 5th generation Camaro was such a great success was all the input by the Focus team. They were not invited this time. How quickly GM forgets. The front of the car isn't that bad but the rear didn't get much thought at all. There are a lot of people on here that has "the Emperor's new clothes" syndrome. Just because you say everyone put in hard work in this redesign doesn't make it not suck. Those taillights are a big fail. They wrap around and are not flat like the 69'. They look like sedan taillights. Cheap at that and only the SS gets LEDs. Not modern in any way and they don't look at all like the 69's. It wasn't until the 4th generation did GM finally start making the Camaro look better after nearly twenty years of ugly designs. Then what, they stopped making them.

I can't believe that only two people besides me has the nuts to tell you the truth. Hence the Emperor's new clothes syndrome. Just because you say " we tried really hard," people feel bad that they insulted you so they are kissing your behind. Don't take it personal. The car has some good attributes but also has some bad ones. That's life.

I am in the process of buying a 2013 Camaro. I had a 2010 Camaro. I loved it. I won't be buying a redesigned new one until the 6th Generation comes out. Hopefully there will be real peoples input in that one.

mpsheedy · 03-30-2013, 08:11 PM

Well said Scott,I know I'm happy with mine as well as my brother with his 45th edition(he bought Tom's #7 Camaro). Change is progress,get over it cupcakes!!

whamslam3 · 03-30-2013, 08:12 PM

i rly LOVE the way the z/28 turned out. BUT the ss rs does not look visually appealing. the halos no longer flow in the redesigned front (just look at the z/28 front to see what i mean). the huge rear diffuser is, just that, HUGE! and does not look right with only 1 pipe on each side; it needs 2 on each side like the z/28 to fill in more of that huge piece. also, dont like how it splits the license plate section in half just looks awkward. the vent on the hood is too small on that big hood, again, it just looks strange. the zl1 vent is perfect size and makes sense. the tail lights on the z/28 look ok but the rs tails look to charger-ish the way the leds are laid out. when i see the 2010 tail lights at night i know its a camaro, with these new ones im not so sure. looks to much like a "regular" car if you get what i mean. im not trying to be a hater or anything its just how i feel since i LOVE my 2011 camaro and was hoping for more from the redesign.

03-30-2013, 07:32 PM	#85
stratman2SSRS Drives: Lingenfelter Camaro Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 2,160 View My Garage	Scott, thanks for all your hard work and the time you spend keeping the Camaro faithfull informed and supporting and promoting our favourite car. You guys nailed the 2010 Camaro so well that any change you make will take time to be accepted. You designed the perfect Camaro, then went out of the park with the ZL1. The performance of the Z/28 is awesome!! The changes to the front, rear, and hood will take a little time to get used to just because it is different, not bad. I wasn't sure if I liked my new beard, but it grew on me. Funds permitting, I'd love to add a Z/28 to the collection (4 Camaro's and a T/A), but I'd keep my Lingenfelter too. __________________

03-30-2013, 07:43 PM	#89
rtcat600man having FUN now 13.66@101 Drives: 2010 2LT IOM Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Clarkston, Michigan Posts: 9,230 View My Garage	BRAVO............Thank - you Scott for the writing. Thank - you GM for the time and patience to create the Buzz about the Z/28. For those who don't like it, you can always go down the street and buy a Mustang, or any other brand that you feel pours more HEART and SOUL into their beloved pony car. __________________ MY BUILD

03-30-2013, 07:43 PM	#90
OldScoolCamaro Drives: Camaro's, always have, always will. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Home of the brave Posts: 4,851	Scott, thanks for talking the time to address us. The Camaro Team's dilligence, commitment, and conscientious attention to history and detail has made the Z/28 a product for all Camaro fans to behold. It's quite an accomplishment. Congratulations for surprising us all, and going big with the vision in returning our iconic name. Thank you, and I am further looking forward to future releases with much anticipation. __________________ In Scott We Trust...all others must show proof.

03-30-2013, 07:51 PM	#91
super60 Built with Pride "Oshawa" Drives: 2011 Chev Silverado Z71 Crew Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Camaro Build Team , Oshawa Posts: 1,445	Scott Great comments & from the heart as always I too was amazed at some of the truly negitive comments regarding the SS refresh that were being thrown about , only to have some of these very same people 24hrs later praise the car they just comparied to the Titanic ! Everyone at GM , Team Chevrolet ,Team Camaro & The Oshawa Build Team have done a fantastic job on the 5thGen and the 2014 is no different , these groups of vehicles still command respect on the street and always bring a smile to everyone i show the car off to ( i've got a company SS this weekend and i swear every kid playing road hockey today in Oshawa stopped and gave me two thumbs up ) Its a great feeling that i can show off our Camaro to future enthusiasts ! And Scott for what it's worth , if i was an American i'd vote for you as President Best Regards from Canada Mike Judge Super60 __________________ In Memory of Dawson Ellert .

03-30-2013, 07:58 PM	#93
DanSS24 Drives: Dream Cars in my head Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: 808 Posts: 1,290	Thank you for the history lesson, F-bod Father. The Z/28 has finally shined. __________________ Wishful thinking...but I sure can dream big.

03-30-2013, 07:35 PM	#86
CrimsonHowitzer Drives: 2-70 Camaros,40 chev 2dr sedan Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 45	One word, respect Thank you Scott!

03-30-2013, 07:55 PM	#92
steel insane Drives: 2012 2LT Black (Vengeance) Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: pa Posts: 637	I do appreciate your hard work, your honesty, and participation, especially here. However, hope springs eternal is the proper motto here... sales will tell whether or not these changes are successful. I think it was a good 4 year run & Version 5's model time is coming to an end. Of course, that's my $.02 & they do not represent all Camaro enthusiasts....

03-30-2013, 08:09 PM	#94
ThaCamaroKid Drives: 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Royse City Tx. Posts: 597 View My Garage	You can never please everybody, We all have our opinions as far as looks/performance and whatever else. I like some things on the new Camaro more and some on mine more, just as everybody else does. I'd say GM ( and yourself and your team ) have done a fantastic job, no individual who insults GM could have done any better themselves. Hundreds of thousands, even millions of Camaro fans and you have to pick a single body style to go with? and just a few sub models? most would pass or fail and give up, I think true Camaro fanatics understand that, and respect the work you all do. NOTHING puts a bigger grin on my face than cruising in my SS, and I am sure most feel the same. And we all Thank you, With that said, is there any way I could get a Z/28? __________________ 375RWHP/399RWTQ

03-30-2013, 08:10 PM	#95
360ss ZL1 NIGHTMARES!!! Drives: LACS+CHEVYS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NAWLINS Posts: 143	Thanks for laying the hammer down on these rubber ducks . I'm back quiet!!!! __________________ 13zl1 #251 NOTHING ELSE MATTER

03-30-2013, 08:11 PM	#96
SilverSurfer21 Drives: 2013 Camaro 2LT Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 41	Scott, I mean you no disrespect. But being a retired GM Engineering veteran of over 30 years and having bought a brand new 1973 Z28 in 1973 at 19 years old I can,'t hold back my opinion. When I first saw the 1968 Camaro I was a huge fan at 15 years old. I had to have a Camaro. I am now 59, soon to be 60 and through the years I watched the Camaro grow uglier and uglier with every change. This was partly because GM would cut funding half way into a design change and ruin the recipe. I watched it with the Oldsmobile Cutlass too. It was horrible to watch great cars ruined by bean counters instead of creative designers. The reason the 5th generation Camaro was such a great success was all the input by the Focus team. They were not invited this time. How quickly GM forgets. The front of the car isn't that bad but the rear didn't get much thought at all. There are a lot of people on here that has "the Emperor's new clothes" syndrome. Just because you say everyone put in hard work in this redesign doesn't make it not suck. Those taillights are a big fail. They wrap around and are not flat like the 69'. They look like sedan taillights. Cheap at that and only the SS gets LEDs. Not modern in any way and they don't look at all like the 69's. It wasn't until the 4th generation did GM finally start making the Camaro look better after nearly twenty years of ugly designs. Then what, they stopped making them. I can't believe that only two people besides me has the nuts to tell you the truth. Hence the Emperor's new clothes syndrome. Just because you say " we tried really hard," people feel bad that they insulted you so they are kissing your behind. Don't take it personal. The car has some good attributes but also has some bad ones. That's life. I am in the process of buying a 2013 Camaro. I had a 2010 Camaro. I loved it. I won't be buying a redesigned new one until the 6th Generation comes out. Hopefully there will be real peoples input in that one.

03-30-2013, 08:11 PM	#97
mpsheedy 2010AQUABLUE Drives: 2010 2SS/RS Aqua Blue/white stripes Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Windsor,Md. Posts: 334 View My Garage	Camaro Well said Scott,I know I'm happy with mine as well as my brother with his 45th edition(he bought Tom's #7 Camaro). Change is progress,get over it cupcakes!!

03-30-2013, 08:12 PM	#98
whamslam3 Camaro King [^^^] Drives: Apollo 11 Camaro IOM Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: CA Posts: 1,754	i rly LOVE the way the z/28 turned out. BUT the ss rs does not look visually appealing. the halos no longer flow in the redesigned front (just look at the z/28 front to see what i mean). the huge rear diffuser is, just that, HUGE! and does not look right with only 1 pipe on each side; it needs 2 on each side like the z/28 to fill in more of that huge piece. also, dont like how it splits the license plate section in half just looks awkward. the vent on the hood is too small on that big hood, again, it just looks strange. the zl1 vent is perfect size and makes sense. the tail lights on the z/28 look ok but the rs tails look to charger-ish the way the leds are laid out. when i see the 2010 tail lights at night i know its a camaro, with these new ones im not so sure. looks to much like a "regular" car if you get what i mean. im not trying to be a hater or anything its just how i feel since i LOVE my 2011 camaro and was hoping for more from the redesign. __________________