Camaro SS manual shipment (not production) hold officially confirmed by GM (UPDATED)

[RJT-Maro]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

But who was the source on the email? I've seen facts distorted from Gm down the chain of command to dealers...You also have people reading random posts here and being quoted in emails....

Scott, John and Cheryl are the only people I trust to be newsworthy on anything "camaro"... and any direct communications to Tran, of course

Well said!!

[Hollywod]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

But who was the source on the email? I've seen facts distorted from Gm down the chain of command to dealers...You also have people reading random posts here and being quoted in emails....

Scott, John and Cheryl are the only people I trust to be newsworthy on anything "camaro"... and any direct communications to Tran, of course

Lets wait and see what Fbod says.

I have not had any problems with my trans, but I also have not felt the need to take a brand new car and throw it into launch mode. Nothing wrong with that, just don't like "IMO" abusing my hard earned money.

[RJT-Maro]

Originally Posted by Hollywod

Lets wait and see what Fbod says.

I have not had any problems with my trans, but I also have not felt the need to take a brand new car and throw it into launch mode. Nothing wrong with that, just don't like "IMO" abusing my hard earned money.

There you go!!

[CamaroScotty]

Originally Posted by Hollywod

Lets wait and see what Fbod says.

Thats what I just said....In one of those disappearing posts.....

[Nezacant]

Originally Posted by CamaroScotty

Camaro, I love you. Don't worry, they can't come between us!

(Get a room!)

[LAWMAN]

i too,after reading this on this site, went to global,(i work at g.m. dealership)and i did not see anything related to a problem with the trans.

[ssrsheaven]

I have been waiting very patiantly on my maro.Was suppost to go to assembly this week 7-13-09.A little more time shouldnt hurt.[NOT]I WANT MY MARO AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!

[GTAHVIT]

Originally Posted by shroomjohn

I wonder if that means if a dealer has lets say 2 allocations 1 manual 1 Auto manual ordered first would that be bumped or just put on hold in same order????

Only the M6 car would be delayed the Auto would be shipped as normal.

Originally Posted by UCF w00t

I'm fairly certain that there's more than just "a small amount" that are affected. The fact of the matter is that noone knows yet how small or large the affected number is. If GM knew that it was a limited issue that they've already fixed, they wouldn't be halting production and holding cars in QC. I am confident that we will know MUCH more very soon.

GM was off last week. Now that they're all back on the job, they are studying the issue closely and doing a full triage of the situation. Being that my car was built after the ones who have failed (mid 16000s) but still shipped before they decided to put a hold, I am particularly concerned. I hadn't planned on doing any hard launches anytime soon so it's not a big deal right now but hopefully they understand the full picture soon. I will definitely be going a bit easier on it until we know more. There would be nothing more embarrassing than sitting by the side of the road in a brand new, bright orange Camaro waiting for a tow truck. I would MUCH rather drive it to the dealership to have the transmission replaced on my schedule! IF that's what needs to happen. But like I said, noone knows yet and I'm confident that once GM knows, they'll pass it on to us. That's all we can ask for!

You are fairly certain that this is your opinion right?

And production hasn't stopped. There is a difference between Halted production and continuing production followed by QC inspections and repairs.

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

so what happens with us 7/13 TPWS with SS M6???

Do we still get built or not??

Every car will continue to be built, then proceed to QC if it is a V8 M6 and then if found to have a faulty tranny it will be repaired and eventually shipped.

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

Alright everybody I just got a call from my dealer!!!

What he told me came from a GM employee who called the plant in Oshawa

and he said the only problem is with the short throw shifter!!!

Nothing is wrong with the regular Manual shifter!!!

So I hope Mods read this!!

He wasnt lying it came straight from the plant!!!!!

So there is no problem with the M6!!

The only constraint there is, is on the Short Throw Shifter!!

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

Well all I know is there Is nothing wrong with the regular M6 in the SS a GM tech at my dealer called the plant himself and they said nothing was wrong with it!!

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

My dealer didnt tell me this a GM tech told me and he called the plant himself and they said nothing is wrong with it!!

Originally Posted by ffrcobra_65

RJT, you are referring to an OLD issue. the Hurst short throw shifter has been on constraints for a long while and you can't even order them anymore.

The new issue is with the transmission's output shaft breaking off. The shifter is not the same as the output shaft. The shiftter is at the top of the tranny, you shift gears with it. The output shaft transfers the power to the driveshaft>diffrential>axles>wheels. When the shaft breaks, your engine still runs, your tranny still shifts, but the car ain't moving!

Have you not read GM's official statement in the HomePage?
Just because someone at the plant says something, it doesn't mean it is EVERYTHING he knows.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by attymf

I did not order the short throw shifter to thats not the issue

Correct

Originally Posted by towmoe

Sorry, Fbod, my car has been in QC since 6/25. That is much more than a day or two.

Off topic, there are plenty of other threads to discuss the R6P process/problems

Originally Posted by RJT-Maro

So after it gets built we go to QC?? is that correct??

Yes sir.

Stay on topic please. You don't have to like the cause of this round of QC and you can blame GM if you'd like.

The bottom line is every post in this thread will be respectful in it's criticism and its praise of GM and other C5 members.

If your standards are so high that you can't fathom a mistake of this magnitude by a company as large as GM then you will most likely continue to be frustrated. Please don't expect the rest of us to share in your frustration.

Thanks everyone!

[matt787]

Originally Posted by okie2

I had the tranny replaced in my 2007 Camry with less than 1500 miles on it. Go read the Toyota forum about all the V6 tranny problems when it came out. Many folks had their tranny replaced in this model.

This is not unique to GM. When you rely on third party vendors, things just happen.

and the Acura 99-03 TL-S MANY trans (manumatic) issues and breakdowns

[RJT-Maro]

Originally Posted by GTAHVIT

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Every car will continue to be built, then proceed to QC if it is a V8 M6 and then if found to have a faulty tranny it will be repaired and eventually shipped.

So If it has a good tranny its free to go??

[hotbuggies]

I just found out this morning that my SS was put on hold till the the first or second week of Aug. Great!!!! Just in time for Winter.

[RJT-Maro]

Originally Posted by hotbuggies

I just found out this morning that my SS was put on hold till the the first or second week of Aug. Great!!!! Just in time for Winter.

and who told you this??

[Badger]

....well, look at the bright side..maybe if the transmission needs to be replaced GM will throw in the Hurst short throw shifter...

[13F20]

Originally Posted by fbodfather

Some thoughts:

Go to a drag-strip and watch some people in their cars--

I saw a guy do a burnout (by accident I'd hope...) in REVERSE!

Launch control can maximize times in many cases.

HOWEVER -- you CAN turn the launch control off.....and when you do, some will hit the rev limiter and then just "dump" the clutch.....


......and THEN there are the 'burn-out' contests....(esp. from those who don't know what they're doing...)

.........and then there are the performance mods that have been done --


........so all I'm saying is this: Don't dump the clutch -- it's not a good thing to do no matter what you drive.......

great point to all Scott. Any car that gets driven hard all the time will go bust.