05-28-2014, 01:43 PM | #29 |
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05-28-2014, 02:31 PM | #30 |
True, but as Ricky Bobby says "If you're not first, you're last."
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05-28-2014, 02:36 PM | #31 |
True, it will be on the gen 6 car I am sure. The ZL1 was the highest HP when it first came out, and that is what the HP wars are about.
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05-28-2014, 03:02 PM | #32 | |
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The ZL1 was the standard to have a high hp rating and handle is more accurate imo. [QUOTE=MEDISIN;7700297]That will be tough to do. Consider current pricing... 2014 ZL1 $55,355 2014 GT500 $55,110 2014 SRT8 $45,685 The ZL1 and GT500 each command a $20k increase over the SS/GT. If they can build the Hellcat for only $10k more than the SRT8, I will be impressed. I suspect we will see a MSRP of at least $60-65k. Other predictions:
Agree with most of this. I will say the Hellcat will be close to the GT500 in 1/4 times but not as good on the road course. Quote:
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05-28-2014, 04:26 PM | #34 | |
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I disagree. They made the ZL1 to compete against the GT500-right? The ZL1 was the standard to have a high hp rating and handle is more accurate imo. Quote:
There's no way that the Helllcat Challenger will start off at $70 Gs. That would mean a fully optioned one will push 90. Thats almost Viper territory. I can see a fully optioned Hellcat going in the mid to high 60s thats 20 thousand more than the the SRT8 Challenger base price. As far as its niche vs the ZL1 and GT500, I think itll out handle the Shelby and beat the ZL1 in a drag race. They will probably promote it as a best of both worlds car. |
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05-28-2014, 05:56 PM | #35 |
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The Hellcat may win on horsepower, but it won't have as sophisticated a suspension, and it won't offer a convertible. The ZL1 should hold the second spot in 2015, because the 662 hp Shelby GT 500 will be gone, and the rumored replacement GT 350 is supposed to be around 500 hp. But I guess we'll see. I'll bet the ZL1 will beat the Hellcat on a track (and the Z/28 will run circles around it on a track).
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05-28-2014, 06:49 PM | #36 |
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Doesn't the name Hellcat sound corny? Like Beaver Cleaver and Larry Mondello got together to name it.
Why not built a car worthy of the name Challenger T/A that can turn, stop and accelerate?
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05-29-2014, 08:48 AM | #37 |
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Being able to get the ZL1 with a automatic , really put it in a league of its own. I remember back late 2011 and the first rumors were only a stick and GM listened to us and we also have the auto. Now finally the hellcat auto comes out and that will be a direct competitor for the ZL1 auto.
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05-29-2014, 12:47 PM | #38 |
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Iread 2 different ads on the hellcat one said over 600hp and the other said 670hp w forged internals
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05-29-2014, 02:28 PM | #39 |
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Ha funny - made me think of Panther for the Camaro. I guess they wanted a name that stands out and it does. New & different.
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Camaro V6:$24,550 Challenger V6: 26,495 Challenger R/T: $30,495 Camaro 1SS: $34,350 Challenger Core: $40,485 Challenger SRT8: $45,685 The V8 Camaro's fall right between the R/T and SRT Core in price, although performance is closer to SRT for both the SS and GT. C&D: 0-60 in 4.5, 12.9 1/4mile at 114mph, 4203lbs MotorTrend: 0-60 in 4.6, 13.0 1/4mile at 111.3mph, 4260lbs Edmunds: 0-60 in 4.7, 12.9 1/4mile at 111.0mph, 4257lbs Edmunds: 0-60 in 4.5, 12.6 1/4mile at 112.1mph, 4257lbs Motor Trend: GT 12.7 sec @ 111.3 mph, SS 13.1 sec @ 110.8 mph Car and Driver: GT 13.2 sec @ 109 mph, SS 13.0 sec @ 111 mph Road & Track: GT 13.2 sec @ 109.3 mph, SS 13.0 sec @ 110.7 mph (0-120 mph: GT 16.4 sec, SS 15.4 sec), Willow Springs Lap: GT 1:37.6, SS 1:37.7) Inside Line: GT 13.3 sec @ 107.3 mph, SS 13.1 sec @ 110.4 mph That's a tall order. The SRT weighs 300lbs more than the GT500. Unless they can shed some weight, I don't see it getting around a track quicker than the GT500 with track pack - which is always the version Ford delivers for reviews.
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2. Mine is in my garage. 56,xxx with Recaros.. plus tax and title etc.. but 55K isn't a mythical number at all. 3. Who cares how it handled. It didn't have anything in its market to compete with other than to destroy things in a straight line.
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