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Padre · 05-27-2011, 10:01 PM

Well, made it to Brainerd Optimist dragway (1/8th mile) in nearby Ringgold Georgia. Test and Tune, getting ready for a Street Fight. Temps 70*.

First up: 24mpg on the way up (increasing elevation), 25mpg on the way back. The SLP Underdrive Pulley is immediately noticeable. About +2mpg. But at idle, it is charging less than 12v. So I bumped up the idle +250rpm, which I wanted to do anyway (550rpm OEM?). That did the trick. With lights and accessories running at stock idle, your battery will run low. I also have a 21lb Braille battery, so I'm pushing the limits of amperage draw.

Second: oh my oh my, do I love the combination of 3200 Stall and 3.45 gears (and the UDP to an extent). Car is much crisper and faster without spinning up so high. Low end torque feels great.

Third: track prep track prep track prep. The new gears spun the tires on all launches except one was a 1.75 sixty (still spinning).

So, good night to hit the track, but not for Testing and Tuning, because not hooking up doesn't help me tune well (at all).

The track isn't great, but it's local and I met a lot of local racers. Some nice cars, and they loved the Camaro. I was running 8.30's @ 85mph, so the track is slower than Steele.

Funny thing is I met three other pastors. One doing the announcing, another driving the "Holy Ghost" funny car below.

The black Mustang GT Vert was a very similar bolt-on with 4.10 gears, auto, and 3000 stall. We were both running 8.30's, so we lined up for a grudge match. Left lane timing wasn't working, but I took him with my 1.7 sixty (no ET, mine was probably an 8.20) to his 8.60 run.. The announcer was running a "Pass Time" with a couple of kids.

More pics. All in all a fun place to go if you just need to get on the track, but I won't be going there just for T&T. I'll make sure I get back to Steele soon for some real times.

Padre

Ronn · 05-28-2011, 11:16 AM

Great build! Stumbled upon this when I was searching for info on shorty headers, good info. I'm also looking forward to the results about your plans to making a run with the stock cat-back.

Camarowguy · 05-28-2011, 12:51 PM

I think lowering the car sets you back some on your 60 ft. You may pick up mph, but it may not even be a measurable amount. Lowering it decreases your frontal area and lets less air under the car. It's not my car, nor my choice, bur I would have like to see everything done except lowering it and make some runs. O well, you'll still get your 11 sec slip tho.

Padre · 05-28-2011, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

I think lowering the car sets you back some on your 60 ft. You may pick up mph, but it may not even be a measurable amount. Lowering it decreases your frontal area and lets less air under the car. It's not my car, nor my choice, bur I would have like to see everything done except lowering it and make some runs. O well, you'll still get your 11 sec slip tho.

Well, it remains to be seen how the new suspension geometry helps my Sixty. The lowering springs themselves shouldn't help or hurt. If there is a difference, it's negligible. The BMR sway bars have a "Drag" setting (tightest), but I can't really test it till I get to a track that is prepped. Going to Brainerd was fun, but I don't want to base any judgments on what I saw there. I have to get back to Steele.

Padre

Camarowguy · 05-28-2011, 03:10 PM

Well if the springs didn't hurt, that potentially good news for me when I lower mine!

speedster · 05-28-2011, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Padre

Well, it remains to be seen how the new suspension geometry helps my Sixty. The lowering springs themselves shouldn't help or hurt. If there is a difference, it's negligible. The BMR sway bars have a "Drag" setting (tightest), but I can't really test it till I get to a track that is prepped. Going to Brainerd was fun, but I don't want to base any judgments on what I saw there. I have to get back to Steele.

Padre

Hey -

It's good to see you out and running it. Keep working on those 60' times. Nice build. And yes a prepped track makes all the difference in the world.

John@APF · 05-28-2011, 07:24 PM

Too bad, Brainerd isnt the best track but sounds like you had fun. The Holy Ghost funny car is awesome

Hopefully the springs didnt hurt too much with the 60's, cause it lookes dayum good lowered! I guess we'll know more when you get back to Steele. Padre was definitley blessed with driver mod "The Saint of Fast Travel"

Glad to help ya out, let us know how Bristol goes. Hopefully the track is prepped

Padre · 05-29-2011, 08:16 PM

1.682 sixty, 12.432 @ 110.15
7.974 @ 87.23
Steele rocks, much better traction.
DA 3000+
Good vids when I get home.

Padre

Padre · 05-29-2011, 10:22 PM

Yeah baby.

DA was 2750+, on track temps were in the 90's. Track prep was good (not as great as it usually is).

This is good news for me, because of the inability to hook up at Brainerd. First run when I got to Steele was a 1.685 sixty. Relieved, now I can get back to working on my times.

Only change, as at Brainerd, is the 3.45 gears. Also added the BMR front and rear sways and the SLP Underdrive Pulley.

I drove with the track tune in it (mostly WOT changes anyway), and was getting alost 25mpg with the A/C on.

As I've said, the performance with the Gears + TC is a dream. Zipping around in highway traffic is a breeze - you're right in your power band and no high-stall TC lag.

I was able to get to the track today because Steele moved it's T&T to 2:30pm to 7:30pm. I was done with my last service and left at 5:15pm ET, arrived at 6:00pm CT (131 miles), got in six runs. This is great because now I can make it out on any Sunday I choose, rather than having to rearrange my schedule once a month so.

All in all, a good day. Hot, but I accomplished what I wanted: seeing how it hooks with the gears, and all is OK.

Padre

I pretty much had the track to myself:

Padre · 05-30-2011, 07:19 AM

Here's a new style of in-car video.

Padre

Camarowguy · 05-30-2011, 01:15 PM

Ugh o, looks like you lost a couple mph?

Padre · 05-30-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camarowguy

Ugh o, looks like you lost a couple mph?

It's all about the Density Altitude. That was to be expected. I wouldn't have raced when the DA was 3000+, except that I wanted to see if there was a problem hooking up with the new setup. There wasn't. That's good news.

Padre

John@APF · 05-31-2011, 07:35 PM

Glad it's still hookin

With those kind of temps you were probably down 20+ HP. Just waitin on some cooler weather for that 11

Pro Stock John · 06-01-2011, 02:36 PM

3000 DA is rough, that's gonna add 2-3 tenths and shave off a few mph.

I'd say the lowering isn't a factor yet, TBD. It's not like you are trying to get a 1.50 short time and are running drag shocks up front etc.

05-27-2011, 10:01 PM	#141
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Well, made it to Brainerd Optimist dragway (1/8th mile) in nearby Ringgold Georgia. Test and Tune, getting ready for a Street Fight. Temps 70. First up: 24mpg on the way up (increasing elevation), 25mpg on the way back. The SLP Underdrive Pulley is immediately noticeable. About +2mpg. But at idle, it is charging less than 12v. So I bumped up the idle +250rpm, which I wanted to do anyway (550rpm OEM?). That did the trick. With lights and accessories running at stock idle, your battery will run low. I also have a 21lb Braille battery, so I'm pushing the limits of amperage draw. Second: oh my oh my, do I love the combination of 3200 Stall and 3.45 gears (and the UDP to an extent). Car is much crisper and faster without spinning up so high. Low end torque feels great. Third: track prep track prep track prep. The new gears spun the tires on all launches except one was a 1.75 sixty (still spinning). So, good night to hit the track, but not for Testing and Tuning, because not hooking up doesn't help me tune well (at all). The track isn't great, but it's local and I met a lot of local racers. Some nice cars, and they loved the Camaro. I was running 8.30's @ 85mph, so the track is slower than Steele. Funny thing is I met three other pastors. One doing the announcing, another driving the "Holy Ghost" funny car below. The black Mustang GT Vert was a very similar bolt-on with 4.10 gears, auto, and 3000 stall. We were both running 8.30's, so we lined up for a grudge match. Left lane timing wasn't working, but I took him with my 1.7 sixty (no ET, mine was probably an 8.20) to his 8.60 run.. The announcer was running a "Pass Time" with a couple of kids. More pics. All in all a fun place to go if you just need to get on the track, but I won't be going there just for T&T. I'll make sure I get back to Steele soon for some real times. Padre Attached Images __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington.* NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919 Last edited by Padre; 05-27-2011 at 10:14 PM.

05-28-2011, 11:16 AM	#142
Ronn Drives: 2010 Camaro Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Northern Ontario Posts: 1,181	Great build! Stumbled upon this when I was searching for info on shorty headers, good info. I'm also looking forward to the results about your plans to making a run with the stock cat-back. __________________ 1SS / RS / M6 / IOM / Black rally stripes / Polished wheels It's a high school prom, it's a Springsteen song, it's a ride in a Chevrolet...

05-28-2011, 12:51 PM	#143
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	I think lowering the car sets you back some on your 60 ft. You may pick up mph, but it may not even be a measurable amount. Lowering it decreases your frontal area and lets less air under the car. It's not my car, nor my choice, bur I would have like to see everything done except lowering it and make some runs. O well, you'll still get your 11 sec slip tho. __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

05-28-2011, 03:10 PM	#145
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Well if the springs didn't hurt, that potentially good news for me when I lower mine! __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

05-29-2011, 08:16 PM	#148
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	1.682 sixty, 12.432 @ 110.15 7.974 @ 87.23 Steele rocks, much better traction. DA 3000+ Good vids when I get home. Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

05-28-2011, 07:24 PM	#147
John@APF Drives: Very Slow... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canton, Ga Posts: 85	Too bad, Brainerd isnt the best track but sounds like you had fun. The Holy Ghost funny car is awesome Hopefully the springs didnt hurt too much with the 60's, cause it lookes dayum good lowered! I guess we'll know more when you get back to Steele. Padre was definitley blessed with driver mod "The Saint of Fast Travel" Glad to help ya out, let us know how Bristol goes. Hopefully the track is prepped

05-29-2011, 10:22 PM	#149
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Yeah baby. DA was 2750+, on track temps were in the 90's. Track prep was good (not as great as it usually is). This is good news for me, because of the inability to hook up at Brainerd. First run when I got to Steele was a 1.685 sixty. Relieved, now I can get back to working on my times. Only change, as at Brainerd, is the 3.45 gears. Also added the BMR front and rear sways and the SLP Underdrive Pulley. I drove with the track tune in it (mostly WOT changes anyway), and was getting alost 25mpg with the A/C on. As I've said, the performance with the Gears + TC is a dream. Zipping around in highway traffic is a breeze - you're right in your power band and no high-stall TC lag. I was able to get to the track today because Steele moved it's T&T to 2:30pm to 7:30pm. I was done with my last service and left at 5:15pm ET, arrived at 6:00pm CT (131 miles), got in six runs. This is great because now I can make it out on any Sunday I choose, rather than having to rearrange my schedule once a month so. All in all, a good day. Hot, but I accomplished what I wanted: seeing how it hooks with the gears, and all is OK. Padre I pretty much had the track to myself: Attached Images __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919 Last edited by Padre; 06-03-2011 at 07:51 AM.

05-30-2011, 07:19 AM	#150
Padre Only drives on Sundays Drives: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC NGray Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Dalton, GA Posts: 2,500 View My Garage	Here's a new style of in-car video. Padre __________________ OLD HOTNESS: The "Heretic": '11 2SS/RS L99 A6 Black/Inferno. Build Journal, Videos D1SC GT9 JBA-LT = 720/680 \| 10.330 @ 133.61, 1.546 sixty... Camaro King at ECS V, Darlington. NEW HOTNESS: '16 2SS A8 NPP MRC. Bone Stock, 1/8th: 8.051 @ 89.44, 1.919

05-30-2011, 01:15 PM	#151
Camarowguy Drives: 2011 imperial blue SS, black 92 RS Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denham Springs Posts: 2,580	Ugh o, looks like you lost a couple mph? __________________ 2011 imperial blue SS/RS a6 12.43@112 vararam, tune, jba cats, magnaflow axle back, self ported tb, under drive pulley, NO headers, Stock tires. 1.87 60ft. Stock tires. SOLD :( 2000 1500 silverado extra cab SOLD :( 2017 Silverado 5.3 all stock 2004 5.7 GTO 78mm turbo

05-31-2011, 07:35 PM	#153
John@APF Drives: Very Slow... Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Canton, Ga Posts: 85	Glad it's still hookin With those kind of temps you were probably down 20+ HP. Just waitin on some cooler weather for that 11

06-01-2011, 02:36 PM	#154
Pro Stock John Writer Drives: 2010 SS / 1967 Camaro Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 7,216	3000 DA is rough, that's gonna add 2-3 tenths and shave off a few mph. I'd say the lowering isn't a factor yet, TBD. It's not like you are trying to get a 1.50 short time and are running drag shocks up front etc. __________________ PROJECT HEAVY CHEVY Camaro Now: Mods for the Masses Part I \| Part II 13.15@106 1.95 \| 100% Stock 12.37@112 1.85 \| + Kooks Headers/Cats + 20" 555R + CAI + BW TB + UDP + Tune 12.06@113 1.70 \| + CD 3200 + 18" NT05R + RCR Intake + NE OTR + GPI Tune 11.84@115 1.59 \| + 3.91s + Race Star 17x7 Fronts 10.90@125 1.47 \| + GPI VVT Cam + BW Ported Heads + CD 3800

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