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BumbleDs · 09-25-2009, 05:14 PM

sometimes when it comes to cars...you just have to lie lol

Vega · 09-25-2009, 05:19 PM

at least we get the real numbers nowadays LOL, i just wish it was like the old days where there was a racing series that made production of these cars essential =/ at least we got all three makers in competition to give us, the consumers, the ultimate win

By the way...you gotta wonder, where will the line be drawn in these cars? 600hp cars from the factory, jeese...what about 800? 900?...dare we cross quad-digits 0_0 LOL

BumbleDs · 09-25-2009, 05:23 PM

I hope not :( I want my car to be King! *pouts*

Vega · 09-25-2009, 05:26 PM

Wait wait...i meant 900hp Camaros from the factory XD

...FOR FOURTY GRAND! XD

Do we dream too much in these threads? lmao

BumbleDs · 09-25-2009, 05:27 PM

you forgot key to the city

Vega · 09-25-2009, 07:40 PM

My key's outdated :(
LOL

Vega · 09-25-2009, 11:17 PM

OH, i just learned the LS7 concept Camaro that was shown at SEMA actually had a "slightly modified 586hp LS7" so obviously its very simple to push this thing beyond the LSA on all motor...ehh, looks like im swaying back in favor of the LS7 powered Z/28 again, im sorry there's just something about "all motor 427 Camaro" that sounds so magical

Mythic · 09-25-2009, 11:56 PM

Maybe it'll be a new engine, the LSB
same design but uses a 1.8L whipple or KB.
more compact, quieter, more efficent, equal if not better boost and cooler charge.

hmmm
also hmmm

GM4lyfe · 09-26-2009, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vega

Yeah i didnt even think about emissions and stuff, idk its just my prefference of N/A cars speaking mostly :P

How about a new Z/28 specific engine? A smaller displacement, higher revving engine than the LS3 which would also help on weight savings and give a nice throwback to the old Z/28s (thats another thing i didnt take into account, weight of the LS7 verses weight of the LSA)

Well in Grand AM and soon in the American Le Mans there are 5.0L LSx engines that produce 500+HP that rev to about 7000k+. But that throws the NVH, fuel econonmy, refinement, emissions, and all that good stuff that you never heard of in the sixties out the window.

Quote:

In the end all LS engines are true marvels of modern engineering anyways xD

Totaly agree!

Vega · 09-26-2009, 03:51 PM

Ah man, now you got me thinking about how awsome it would be to have the old Z/28 302 back with 500+ horsepower xD

wildpaws · 09-26-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vega

Ah man, now you got me thinking about how awsome it would be to have the old Z/28 302 back with 500+ horsepower xD

Here's a link to an article with an LS1 built to 302cid as a tribute to the first gen. 302, 435hp @ 6,000 RPM. I could see something like that with higer rev limits going 500HP plus.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...302/index.html

Clyde

Vega · 09-26-2009, 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wildpaws

Here's a link to an article with an LS1 built to 302cid as a tribute to the first gen. 302, 435hp @ 6,000 RPM. I could see something like that with higer rev limits going 500HP plus.
http://www.superchevy.com/features/c...302/index.html

Clyde

That's amazing, LOL, i wish they'd do builds like this for the new Z/28, although with 435hp thats just like 10 extra over the LS3 so they'd have to either up that or else put a LOT of emphases on lightening the car, either way thats a really cool article

Vega · 09-26-2009, 09:12 PM

uhg thank GOD, i wanted to shoot myself in the face after all the trouble i went through to find these numbers but i finally got them, so here's the weigh in!

LS7 - 458lbs
LSA - 467lbs (dry)
LS9 - 530lbs (dry)

clark17357 · 09-27-2009, 09:32 AM

Assuming that the Z/28 will not just be cosmetics and will be, instead, performance based, what available options, motor wise, are there that would be in the small block category (sorry, I have not kept up with GM motors)? I like what Vega had to say about the 302's. The Z/28s of old were relatively light and nimble. Putting 427 motors in them would make them as nose heavy as the GT500. A small block would shave weight and still leave the potential for supercharging it to power levels that are not destructive to the motor but very impressive on the track (I am thinking road course here). Thanks in advance for any light you can shed for me on the motor choices.

Jim

09-25-2009, 05:14 PM	#85
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09-25-2009, 05:23 PM	#87
BumbleDs Drives: 2010 Camaro RS/SS TF Edition Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Des Moines Posts: 629 View My Garage	I hope not :( I want my car to be King! pouts __________________ Love it or hate it, my car can transform and kick your cars @$$!

09-25-2009, 05:27 PM	#89
BumbleDs Drives: 2010 Camaro RS/SS TF Edition Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Des Moines Posts: 629 View My Garage	you forgot key to the city __________________ Love it or hate it, my car can transform and kick your cars @$$!

09-27-2009, 09:32 AM	#98
clark17357 Drives: 2008 Shelby GT/SC Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 15	The Z-28 Motors of Old Assuming that the Z/28 will not just be cosmetics and will be, instead, performance based, what available options, motor wise, are there that would be in the small block category (sorry, I have not kept up with GM motors)? I like what Vega had to say about the 302's. The Z/28s of old were relatively light and nimble. Putting 427 motors in them would make them as nose heavy as the GT500. A small block would shave weight and still leave the potential for supercharging it to power levels that are not destructive to the motor but very impressive on the track (I am thinking road course here). Thanks in advance for any light you can shed for me on the motor choices. Jim __________________ 2008 Shelby GT/SC Mustang, Vista Blue with Silver Stripes, 5-Speed, Coupe, Center gauge cluster, Kenne Bell supercharger, Front and rear brake ducts, AP Racing brakes (6-piston front, 4-piston rear), Fays2 Watts Link, Metco upper and lower control arms, BBR 3.5" aluminum drive shaft, BMR front drive shaft safety loop; Autopower four point roll bar, Autopower five point racing harnesses (both sides), and Camber/caster plates. Dyno results: 453 rear wheel torque, 447 rear wheel horse power @ 67 degrees F, 75% humidity @ sea level. Last edited by clark17357; 09-27-2009 at 10:00 AM.

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09-25-2009, 05:19 PM	#86
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	at least we get the real numbers nowadays LOL, i just wish it was like the old days where there was a racing series that made production of these cars essential =/ at least we got all three makers in competition to give us, the consumers, the ultimate win By the way...you gotta wonder, where will the line be drawn in these cars? 600hp cars from the factory, jeese...what about 800? 900?...dare we cross quad-digits 0_0 LOL

09-25-2009, 05:26 PM	#88
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	Wait wait...i meant 900hp Camaros from the factory XD ...FOR FOURTY GRAND! XD Do we dream too much in these threads? lmao

09-25-2009, 07:40 PM	#90
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	My key's outdated :( LOL

09-25-2009, 11:17 PM	#91
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	OH, i just learned the LS7 concept Camaro that was shown at SEMA actually had a "slightly modified 586hp LS7" so obviously its very simple to push this thing beyond the LSA on all motor...ehh, looks like im swaying back in favor of the LS7 powered Z/28 again, im sorry there's just something about "all motor 427 Camaro" that sounds so magical

09-25-2009, 11:56 PM	#92
Mythic Drives: '03 Monte Carlo SS Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: VaBeach VA Posts: 348	Maybe it'll be a new engine, the LSB same design but uses a 1.8L whipple or KB. more compact, quieter, more efficent, equal if not better boost and cooler charge. hmmm also hmmm

09-26-2009, 03:51 PM	#94
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	Ah man, now you got me thinking about how awsome it would be to have the old Z/28 302 back with 500+ horsepower xD

09-26-2009, 09:12 PM	#97
Vega Drives: 91' Camaro RS Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 589 View My Garage	uhg thank GOD, i wanted to shoot myself in the face after all the trouble i went through to find these numbers but i finally got them, so here's the weigh in! LS7 - 458lbs LSA - 467lbs (dry) LS9 - 530lbs (dry)