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Skogen · 06-19-2013, 07:40 PM

Thinking awful hard about doing headers with high flow cats on my Camaro (LS3 Car).
I do not hate the sound of the exhaust now, i rather prefer the "sleeper" status so every ricer leaves me alone. I have been told the dynatech cat back exhaust is very quiet also, what are the gains from switching it out vs. the factory? Is it worth the $$$ to go aftermarket knowing this?

The setup I was considering is: Headers (probably dynatech) with high flow cats & a set of noweeds exhaust cutouts.

Suggestions?
Does anybody have a clip of a similar setup?

Thanks
BS

Also, this setup with a CAI will require tuning. Suggestions? Montana does not have much for performance shops for a dyno tune.

Apex Motorsports · 06-19-2013, 07:46 PM

There is not much performance benefit to a cat back on these cars until you get into BIG HP numbers. It is mostly going to be about sound and weight reduction. You can have the tuning done remotely.

2012-2SS · 06-19-2013, 10:34 PM

If you want to keep it quiet, keep the factory exhaust. It'll be a quiet idle and cruise but loud when you get on it. The factory mufflers look big and restrictive but its not the case.

Camero5 · 06-19-2013, 10:39 PM

I have the magnaflow comp series exhaust with SW headers and its pretty quiet for me. No drone inside and barely hear it unless it WOT. People always compliment me in the sound.

Bell040 · 06-20-2013, 09:40 AM

I think that LT headers and the stock exhaust is one of best sounding setups. I had this at one time, but I blew a baffle in one of the stock exhausts (caused by the LTs?), and had to go aftermarket.

Kooks Headers · 06-20-2013, 09:44 AM

You will gain the most power with a full exhaust system. But, for the "sleeper" sound this setup would gain you some good hp and keep it quiet. Check out a Kooks Header vendor on this site for some great deals on our headers.

Bell040 · 06-20-2013, 09:59 AM

LTs and stock exhaust is not quiet at all. Do a search. It sounds awesome, and it cuts down on the drone that you get with most aftermarket mufflers.

Juiced1 · 06-20-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Skogen

Thinking awful hard about doing headers with high flow cats on my Camaro (LS3 Car).
I do not hate the sound of the exhaust now, i rather prefer the "sleeper" status so every ricer leaves me alone. I have been told the dynatech cat back exhaust is very quiet also, what are the gains from switching it out vs. the factory? Is it worth the $$$ to go aftermarket knowing this?

The setup I was considering is: Headers (probably dynatech) with high flow cats & a set of noweeds exhaust cutouts.

Suggestions?
Does anybody have a clip of a similar setup?

Thanks
BS

Also, this setup with a CAI will require tuning. Suggestions? Montana does not have much for performance shops for a dyno tune.

If you can deal with looking at the ugly cans from the back end it's a great set up. You will gain all the power by adding the long tubes. Like others have already said, you won't gain anything by swapping out the catback. Toss in a set of cut outs to wake things up if you're ever in the mood. If this sounds like something you're serious about I'd also recommend the ARH "long system". The long system runs all the way to the rear axles and will remove the factory H-pipe (with an X-pipe) and the resonators. If you do add headers then you should get a tune although you really won't be harming anything by waiting a bit, you just leave a good amount of power on the table.

Skogen · 06-20-2013, 10:36 AM

Well, I plan to do the cat back at sometime.

Just trying to budget by build. I dont finance toys so... Just dont want the car to sound like crap during the process.

Headers 1 7/8 or 2' primaries/Noweed's and probably a CAI are probably what I am initially looking at.

Eventually I will do some suspension upgrades, cat back and possibly a maggie.

So I prefer my parts to work later in my build vs. having to replace them once I add forced induction.

Thanks
BS

RogerBzSS · 06-20-2013, 10:49 AM

Love My LTss in to HF's out the factory cat back!!! Yep it's cammed too

JDP Sales · 06-20-2013, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skogen

Thinking awful hard about doing headers with high flow cats on my Camaro (LS3 Car).
I do not hate the sound of the exhaust now, i rather prefer the "sleeper" status so every ricer leaves me alone. I have been told the dynatech cat back exhaust is very quiet also, what are the gains from switching it out vs. the factory? Is it worth the $$$ to go aftermarket knowing this?

The setup I was considering is: Headers (probably dynatech) with high flow cats & a set of noweeds exhaust cutouts.

Suggestions?
Does anybody have a clip of a similar setup?

Thanks
BS

Also, this setup with a CAI will require tuning. Suggestions? Montana does not have much for performance shops for a dyno tune.

Doing headers with the stock exhaust is a great cost effective way to add power and sound. You will not gain much HP wise with a catback system, but the weight savings and tone change are the reason most do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kooks Headers

You will gain the most power with a full exhaust system. But, for the "sleeper" sound this setup would gain you some good hp and keep it quiet. Check out a Kooks Header vendor on this site for some great deals on our headers.

Feel free to call, PM or email us anytime with questions!

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Bell040 · 06-20-2013, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerBzSS

Love My LTss in to HF's out the factory cat back!!! Yep it's cammed too

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You would love a set of cutouts. Cutouts, LTs, and a cam sounds like a demon.

ForgedReality · 06-20-2013, 11:21 AM

Why not just remove the mufflers and run catless with LTs? Why do it part-time with cutouts? BORING! :P

Also, cutouts are added cost, added work, and one more thing to fail on the car.

Bell040 · 06-20-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ForgedReality

Why not just remove the mufflers and run catless with LTs? Why do it part-time with cutouts? BORING! :P

Also, cutouts are added cost, added work, and one more thing to fail on the car.

phone calls, drone and neighbors

there will be a time that you want to tone it down. Trust me... I do it every day.

06-19-2013, 07:40 PM	#1
Skogen Hell Yea! Drives: 1969 Chevelle SS & 2012 2SSRS M6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fort Shaw, MT Posts: 241	Headers w/Stock Exhaust Thinking awful hard about doing headers with high flow cats on my Camaro (LS3 Car). I do not hate the sound of the exhaust now, i rather prefer the "sleeper" status so every ricer leaves me alone. I have been told the dynatech cat back exhaust is very quiet also, what are the gains from switching it out vs. the factory? Is it worth the $$$ to go aftermarket knowing this? The setup I was considering is: Headers (probably dynatech) with high flow cats & a set of noweeds exhaust cutouts. Suggestions? Does anybody have a clip of a similar setup? Thanks BS Also, this setup with a CAI will require tuning. Suggestions? Montana does not have much for performance shops for a dyno tune. __________________ Life is like sex. If you are not having fun, you are doing it wrong!.. 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Crystal Red Tintcoat - AGP 54/57 Twin Turbo with Meth injection. 704 RWHP. 2015 Chevrolet 2500 LTZ 1969 Chevelle SS396 - Numbers matching

06-19-2013, 10:34 PM	#3
2012-2SS Drives: 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Dover, NH Posts: 678	If you want to keep it quiet, keep the factory exhaust. It'll be a quiet idle and cruise but loud when you get on it. The factory mufflers look big and restrictive but its not the case. __________________ 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS, Hurst Short Throw, IdealG M/C, Pypes Pipe Bomb, LSR Cold Air Intake, LSR Toe Links/Lower Control Arms Clear Image headers, high flows, Slowhawk tune 1974 Chevy K10 Built 355, FAST EZ EFI, 5speed 2000 Chevy Tahoe LT 5.3L, Slowhawk tune

06-19-2013, 10:39 PM	#4
Camero5 Hide! My wife's coming! Drives: 2013 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Las Colinas, TX Posts: 1,442 View My Garage	I have the magnaflow comp series exhaust with SW headers and its pretty quiet for me. No drone inside and barely hear it unless it WOT. People always compliment me in the sound. __________________ 2013 Camaro ZL1 Convertible CRT - 630 RWHP / 620 RWTQ - ADM Performance Built/Tuned - ZL-700 Package - LS9 CAM - Lingenfelter CNC Ported Heads - Stainless Power Headers

06-20-2013, 09:40 AM	#5
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	I think that LT headers and the stock exhaust is one of best sounding setups. I had this at one time, but I blew a baffle in one of the stock exhausts (caused by the LTs?), and had to go aftermarket. __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

06-20-2013, 09:44 AM	#6
Kooks Headers Drives: 2013 SS Camaro Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Statesville, NC Posts: 29	You will gain the most power with a full exhaust system. But, for the "sleeper" sound this setup would gain you some good hp and keep it quiet. Check out a Kooks Header vendor on this site for some great deals on our headers. __________________ Kooks Custom Headers Call us! 866-586-KOOK (5665)

06-19-2013, 07:46 PM	#2
Apex Motorsports Drives: 2000 Camaro SS Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Louisville, Ky. Posts: 25,179	There is not much performance benefit to a cat back on these cars until you get into BIG HP numbers. It is mostly going to be about sound and weight reduction. You can have the tuning done remotely.

06-20-2013, 09:59 AM	#7
Bell040 Drives: 2SS/RS - Black - GFX Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: B'ham, Alabama Posts: 2,458 View My Garage	LTs and stock exhaust is not quiet at all. Do a search. It sounds awesome, and it cuts down on the drone that you get with most aftermarket mufflers. __________________ Ordered: 10-13-08 Built: 3-30-09 (#1691) Recieved: 6-12-09 Blacked out, Cammed (Lunati Voodoo 233/245, .578/.598 @114°, +4°), ARH LTs, VR OTR CAI, Cutouts, and lots of other fun mods.

06-20-2013, 10:36 AM	#9
Skogen Hell Yea! Drives: 1969 Chevelle SS & 2012 2SSRS M6 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Fort Shaw, MT Posts: 241	Well, I plan to do the cat back at sometime. Just trying to budget by build. I dont finance toys so... Just dont want the car to sound like crap during the process. Headers 1 7/8 or 2' primaries/Noweed's and probably a CAI are probably what I am initially looking at. Eventually I will do some suspension upgrades, cat back and possibly a maggie. So I prefer my parts to work later in my build vs. having to replace them once I add forced induction. Thanks BS __________________ Life is like sex. If you are not having fun, you are doing it wrong!.. 2012 Camaro 2SS/RS Crystal Red Tintcoat - AGP 54/57 Twin Turbo with Meth injection. 704 RWHP. 2015 Chevrolet 2500 LTZ 1969 Chevelle SS396 - Numbers matching

06-20-2013, 11:21 AM	#13
ForgedReality Envy Drives: 2011 SGM 2SS/RS - Black hood/hockey Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Renton, WA Posts: 915 View My Garage	Why not just remove the mufflers and run catless with LTs? Why do it part-time with cutouts? BORING! :P Also, cutouts are added cost, added work, and one more thing to fail on the car.