06-01-2015, 07:42 AM | #1 |
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Modding cause issues with AC compressor?
The AC compressor locked up on me. A mechanic I use occasionally told me it was because of all the mods on my car, that I'm putting out to much power for the compressor to handle, spinning it to fast and causing issue's.
My trust level in this guy has gone down a lot over this because he overcharged the heck out of me on the part. (he charged $400, I found the part online for half that) Is this something that really happens though? if so does the Zl1 have a different compressor? My car has the power levels of a stock Zl1 but naturally aspirated so a ZL1 compressor (if there is such a thing) would fix this problem. Are there other aftermarket compressors out there that could stop this from being an issue?
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06-01-2015, 07:54 AM | #2 |
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Did the compressor lock up or the clutch?
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06-01-2015, 07:55 AM | #3 |
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I don't believe the too much power story.
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06-01-2015, 08:00 AM | #4 |
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spins too fast? it doesn't matter if you have 200hp or 2000hp, 3000rpm is still 3000rpm...
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06-01-2015, 08:05 AM | #5 |
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That's what I was thinking to..
I'm not a mechanic beyond basic's, I noticed the day after taking it to PBIR and doing 4 1/4 mile passes. The AC was spotty before then but now turning the AC on caused burnt rubber smelling smoke to billow out of the hood, turning the AC off stopped it. Opened the hood to look and there's gunk all around the pulley on the compressor. I guess that answers most of my questions. Thanks..
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06-01-2015, 08:23 AM | #6 |
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I mean obviously the compressor is shot, but there are plenty of guys running high HP with functional A/C.
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06-01-2015, 08:43 AM | #7 |
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I agree with motorhead and denis...power level doesn't matter. But costing twice as much as internet...that's just a business doing business. The internet will always be cheaper...but the shop can't stand behind the internet part like they can their own. Your paying for warranty and hopefully a quality part.
After that "too much power" comment...kinda seems sketchy.
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06-04-2015, 04:30 PM | #8 |
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I would keep the A/C turned off when your running really high RPMs for long periods of time, it actually disengages itself under WOT anyway.
My guess would be the compressor just gave up, not because you make too much power but just because it was it's time. Fix it and move on.
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06-04-2015, 06:48 PM | #9 |
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Looking at the list of mods your car has, I see 3.91 gears and high stall convertor.
Your car maybe only making the HP of the ZL1 , but with the Stall and the Gears I bet its revving a lot quicker. Just like the Clutch in a Manual trans car needs upgraded with more horsepower and aggressive gearing , I can see how the mechanic could say there is now more stress on the Air Conditioner both the pump and the clutch. Not sure about a ZL1 pump Like another mentioned , there is a cutoff switch that keeps the Pump from running at WOT, but how much sooner are you putting that stress on the AC after the mods, even though your pedal is not on the floor.
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06-05-2015, 06:42 AM | #10 | |
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06-05-2015, 06:56 AM | #11 |
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Do any of your mods, like say the transmission cooler, block airflow or introduce more heat across the condenser coil? 134a and POE oil do not like excessive heat.
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06-05-2015, 11:49 AM | #12 |
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Not that I'm aware of, I'll check it out this weekend but I'm pretty sure they arent blocking the coil.
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06-06-2015, 10:58 AM | #13 |
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The power output of the engine is not going to hurt the compressor. The compressor can fail internally or externally. A internal failure is usually caused from low oil level in the system causing the compressor to lock up. Externally the clutch or bearing in the pulley can lock up.
There is a big quality difference when comparing compressors. A OE compressor is not the same as a cheap Chinese piece found at a discount store. There is a additive that can added to the oil that improves overall efficiency and extends compressor life. www.ice32.com
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06-09-2015, 08:52 PM | #14 |
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Be sure to resesrch removing all the debris that is now in the refrigeration system from yiur failure.
http://www.aircondition.com/tech/que...Black-Death%3F |
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