Frontal shot of new Camaro.......

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by z28camaro2471

then through the gears with some spin in each gear all that way up to 100mph or so..er I mean up to 65mph (that correction is for you TAG, sorry I got excited).

Shoot...if you're only hitting 100, the only "lights" you'll be seeing from me is my tail lamps as I keep pulling away from you!!!

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Kenz made a comment to the front brake vents. I do hope they're there...but I can't see anything down there, do any of you? I can see if they axed that little feature (not a big deal, the car's so low, you'd hardly ever see them).

And I'm very sure (though I don't actually 'know') that the air scoop, and the faux rear brake vents will either be cut-out (brake vents non-functional), or they will be made to look like they're cut-out. And my "very-suredness" extends to believing they'll be cut out.

I am EXTREMELY happy someone brought up the fact that the front vent wasn't cut out. That makes me feel a lot better about the rear vents being cut out as well. Oh, do I hope all three spots are cut out. If not, I just might have to do some body work.

And jeez...10 pages I just read through....ON THIS THREAD ALONE!!!

[KILLER74Z28]

I friggen can't stop smiling… I feel like I'm a real life smilie… My cheeks hurt…

[camero]

Why would you want the side vents cut out? The '69 never had them cut out. To cut them out the fender would have to go through another process which would drive up the cost. Then there'd be a raw metal edge around three holes which would have to be filled with three plastic moldings. They'd seem loose without three rubber grommets. Then they'd still seem fake unless you put a ducting to the rear brakes which don't actually need cooling anyway since the front brakes do all the work. Your up to 14 additional parts at least plus the cost of all their attachments and the cutout itself and for what? Exaggeratedly cartoonish non-functional gills that look nothing like the original, or do it the way we did it for free and make it a perfect homage to the classic. Anyone else want to 'pray' for cut out gills and threaten to buy a Mustang if we don't??? They're not going to be cut out.

[Warghost]

Personally, the side vents mean little to me. I like them the way they are. However, I actually prefer the new "production" grill better than the concept's. The squares are now smaller, which looks nicer to me. I'm also liking the smaller headlights. This car is beautiful!

[NVMY68SS]

Originally Posted by camero

Why would you want the side vents cut out? The '69 never had them cut out. To cut them out the fender would have to go through another process which would drive up the cost. Then there'd be a raw metal edge around three holes which would have to be filled with three plastic moldings. They'd seem loose without three rubber grommets. Then they'd still seem fake unless you put a ducting to the rear brakes which don't actually need cooling anyway since the front brakes do all the work. Your up to 14 additional parts at least plus the cost of all their attachments and the cutout itself and for what? Exaggeratedly cartoonish non-functional gills that look nothing like the original, or do it the way we did it for free and make it a perfect homage to the classic. Anyone else want to 'pray' for cut out gills and threaten to buy a Mustang if we don't??? They're not going to be cut out.

Absolutely, totally agree.........the COPO and base cars were left with the quarter lines like in the picture above and the Zs got the chrome moulding.... I know they were cut out in the concept, but they don't do anything and it would also become another difficult area to keep clean. (Mine will never see rain though) But for all of you daily drivers, you might not like how that area would look........keeping them as is is the only answer........thanks for your posts CAMERO..........nice having another "in the know" poster.

[2010_5thgen]

oh my god this car looks amazing. great job!!!

[cc-rider]

This has to be the RS version with the flipping headlights, no?
I love the headlights they put in. Looks bad ass with them closed as well.

Boy I hope pricing stays relatively reasonable with these....it is the last thing that will keep me from getting one. Oh yeah....a 295HP V8 would also tweak me.

[fbodfather]

Originally Posted by Dragoneye

Some points to chew on. (I'm not trying to come across agressive, or anything - just spitting them out there.)

1: This is a Brand New car. Fresh sheet of paper. New style, new chassis, (probably new engine) An entire assembly plant (Oshawa) needs to be retooled to accept this new type of vehicle (Global RWD IRS; aka Zeta). And as you said, they really do want to get it right. It's gonna take a bit.

2: Compounding the above; Challenger was built off an existing chassis, that already has a plant ready to accept it. It's rather unoriginal, too. IMHO.

It will be 3 years from concept to Production (Jan '06 - ~Jan '09). According to Scott, and Bob Lutz(whom I trust very much) - that's excellent time for a brand new vehicle.


Just hang in there a few more months (I can't believe we're even counting in those units!!! )

You are wise beyond your years.

(by the way -- for what it's worth -- Camaro got approval to move forward in August of 06-- with major work beginning in September of 06--- that's just about 25 months -- the original Camaro took longer.......

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by camero

Why would you want the side vents cut out? The '69 never had them cut out. To cut them out the fender would have to go through another process which would drive up the cost. Then there'd be a raw metal edge around three holes which would have to be filled with three plastic moldings. They'd seem loose without three rubber grommets. Then they'd still seem fake unless you put a ducting to the rear brakes which don't actually need cooling anyway since the front brakes do all the work. Your up to 14 additional parts at least plus the cost of all their attachments and the cutout itself and for what? Exaggeratedly cartoonish non-functional gills that look nothing like the original, or do it the way we did it for free and make it a perfect homage to the classic. Anyone else want to 'pray' for cut out gills and threaten to buy a Mustang if we don't??? They're not going to be cut out.

I'm glad someone finally said it... because I knew as soon as I saw that that the side slits were not going to be there... and, honestly, I never noticed that they were cut out on the concept because I've always seen them as styling cues taken from the '69 Camaro... where they were never functional... and if you really think about it, if you had these vents cut out, what do you think would happen during certain types of wind resistance? you'd get a whistle sound that would result from the air being cut by those vents... and who wants to have a car that whistles while driving at 50mph? I can only imagine the number of service visits that that noise would result in.

there will be aftermarket companies that will do this mod, though... much like being able to add Z06 brake ducts and side vents to a C5, I'm quite sure that there will be an aftermarket solution for those that want it.

[acscamarochick06]

Originally Posted by camero

Why would you want the side vents cut out? The '69 never had them cut out. To cut them out the fender would have to go through another process which would drive up the cost. Then there'd be a raw metal edge around three holes which would have to be filled with three plastic moldings. They'd seem loose without three rubber grommets. Then they'd still seem fake unless you put a ducting to the rear brakes which don't actually need cooling anyway since the front brakes do all the work. Your up to 14 additional parts at least plus the cost of all their attachments and the cutout itself and for what? Exaggeratedly cartoonish non-functional gills that look nothing like the original, or do it the way we did it for free and make it a perfect homage to the classic. Anyone else want to 'pray' for cut out gills and threaten to buy a Mustang if we don't??? They're not going to be cut out.

I agree... if the vents weren't cut out on the '69, and that is what the concept/prototype is designed after, why do we want them cut out now? I'm only concerned about that front vent, but we already are about 99.9% positive THAT will be cut out.

And I will NEVER be seen in a Mustang!

[Jeff]

Anyone know if they have the Camaro production models on posters for sale?

[MattD]

Kind of makes me wish that I wouldn't have gotten my vette...

[neo2227]

Have I told you lately that I love you!!!! (camaro) I love the front mang!!!!! But tell me where to filler up and what's under da hood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TAG UR IT]

Originally Posted by Jeff

Anyone know if they have the Camaro production models on posters for sale?

I still want the vents cut out. They were cut out on the concept and looked great. I'm sure they can do it a whistling noise as other car manufacturers have done it before. It won't be a deal breaker for me, but I sure hope they cut them out. I see that the 69 didn't have it cut out, but if the concept was meant to be identical to the 1st gen and retro, GM would have done it differently. Times change which also allow for improvements. I think it would be an improvement to have them cut out. Having to clean the vents? That isn't even a concern of mine. I'd be happy to clean them...as I would have to clean the rest of the entire car as well. I seriously doubt it would be hard or anything...just more cleaning. Take a rag w/ soapy water and run it through the vent.