Do you really want a Boss Killer, aka Z28???

[thePill]

Originally Posted by 2013Boss302

A few corrections.

All Boss 302's for 2012 are allocated. They are spread out over 4 quarters. Volume dealers who sell alot of Mustangs are guaranteed allocation based on sales. Smaller dealers (read rural dealerships, of which there are alot) enter a lottery system to "win" allocation.

For instance, my local Ford store won allocation for a 2nd quarter Boss 302. Their other rural store won allocation for a 4th quarter Laguna Seca. I helped them sell their Laguna Seca, so I will be ordering a 2013 Boss 302 at under MSRP.

What we know about the 2013 Boss 302, so far is, 1970 style stripes and the addition of a few colors, along with the loss of a few colors. I will be ordering a Grabber Blue 2013.

I guess that makes some sense, I know that initially, production was suppose to end in December. With the "Share of a Nation" plan allocating 3000 right off the bat and an additional 794 going out now, that doesn't leave very many Boss 302s to build throughout the year and into December though. There is also a "Lottery" for those dealers that couldn't participate in the SoN allocation and I don't think 206 Boss 302s will be enough..... unless 4000 was too small of a figure. This definitely makes me think there are way over 4000 or there will be a Job 2 this summer. Anyway, thanks for the info, even though some may think this doesn't pertain to the Z28, it is good to know how many Z28s can/will be built.... Now, back to the Z28.

[OrangeVert]

Yes I would in the future, especially if there was a vert option when my new 2011 becomes 5 or 10 years old. Starting development now there may be a Z/28 car by then, hopefully sooner.

[thePill]

Originally Posted by Rocky918

what do you mean by "L" link? and I figure teh ZL-1 will be a much smoother and crisper (meaning less body roll) ride than the SS from the factory.. so with that MRC system and me adding on sway bars, I think I can have similar handling to something like a nissan 370 z?

Sorry man, I skipped over your post. The "L" link is the completely redesigned large link in the Camaro's 4.5 multi-link. This redesign makes it considerably different than the Pontiac G8's multi-link IRS that which it was adopted (mutated) from. The Z28 will not require F55s or any new generation MRC. It think all it would need is a track adjustable Z51 package, a lightweight L-link, and chassis bracing "(V" braces). I know there will be some weight involved but we can get that back in wheels and interior.

I'd rather not talk about the ZL1 here but I agree that the ZL1s MRC will smooth out the ride. I do not think that MRC will eliminate body roll completely but the ZL1 will "handle the road unlike any other vehicle with it's curb weight".

[Rocky918]

Originally Posted by thePill

Sorry man, I skipped over your post. The "L" link is the completely redesigned large link in the Camaro's 4.5 multi-link.

I still dont get it.. large link for what? ... what multi link?
And whats the F55? ... sry but im a noob in this topic

[thePill]

Originally Posted by Rocky918

I still dont get it.. large link for what? ... what multi link?
And whats the F55? ... sry but im a noob in this topic

Multi-link Independent Rear Suspension that the 5th Gen Camaro uses. Multi-link is just a fancy way of saying 4 link IRS. Each IRS system has "links" that are connected to the rear wheels. A typical dune buggy would have a double wish bone type suspension IRS or a F1 would have usually 6 different links. Every IRS is different, kind of like a snow flake...
Here is a picture of a simple IRS system:



This is a very simple IRS system. You see the half-shaft, the lower "A" arm and the coil-over. Manufacturers could call this a 3 link. The halfshaft is 1, the farthest "A" arm is 2 (hard to see in the picture) and the nearest "A" arm bar is 3. Some manufacturers could call it a 2 link the halfshaft being 1 and the entire "A" arm being 2. Some could not count the halfshaft as a link and just call it 1 link IRS or something cool like... "Wishbone". Double Wishbone is typically your front independent suspension or the old Mac setup like we are use to.

I will see if I can dig up an old 5th Gen comparison to the G8. It will tell you all about the 5th Gens IRS. I have to send it too you privately.

[thePill]

Originally Posted by Rocky918

I still dont get it.. large link for what? ... what multi link?
And whats the F55? ... sry but im a noob in this topic

F55 was an option for the 1st gen magnetic ride control that was offered in the Corvette. The other performance option was the Z51 which was the traditional set up Z06 guys opted for in the Z06 when the MRC started to be an offering in that model.

google "F55 vs Z51" Read any thread I guess.. You will see that most Z06 guys don't like it, most ZR1 guys do... Most Z06 guys don't like ZR1 guys and ZR1 guys don't like the Z06 guys...

[pbm457]

I do hope the Z goes into production.

[Splitter]

No Z please. Ronald Reagan could only live once.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by Splitter

No Z please. Ronald Reagan could only live once.

There's nothing to see here, move along!

[Splitter]

Originally Posted by WYKOFF69Z

There's nothing to see here, move along!

Don't you want your '69 to be even more exclusive? I mean, I can understand the wanting of a new Z/28 ... I just think we should leave the legend alone.

[2cnd chance]

Why because the Boss is so unsuccessful?

[2cnd chance]

GM will do it for the marketability and the $$$, especially the $$$.

[Rocky918]

Originally Posted by 2cnd chance

GM will do it for the marketability and the $$$, especially the $$$.

[Fightinfire921]

Originally Posted by Splitter

Don't you want your '69 to be even more exclusive? I mean, I can understand the wanting of a new Z/28 ... I just think we should leave the legend alone.

My Z isn't exclusive of the 20,302 built in 1969 there are 50,000 in the world today.

Chevrolet couldn't sell the 69 ZL1's built in '69 but didn't have a hard time selling the Z's.

There has been a Z in every generation it's just going to take some time for the new one to appear.

I have seen a new Boss and that's one hot car.