05-31-2013, 03:13 PM | #43 | |
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05-31-2013, 03:22 PM | #44 | |
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There is No fuel in the Coefficient tables above 1.2 Bar so you have to carry that out and fine tune it when adding a 3 bar MAP The distance between the MAF and the intake valve is Longer with a Whipple, and there is a lot more (What we Call) Plenum Volume because of it's size. So the Motor takes a gulp of Air with NO Fuel to Cover the HOLE before the MAF Sees it. The Further the MAF is from the intake valve the worse this problem gets. Remember Air flows Like a Slinky.
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05-31-2013, 03:25 PM | #45 |
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BBK has some new throttle body's coming out. Hope they work cause I want a 102 for my whipple.
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05-31-2013, 03:30 PM | #46 |
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05-31-2013, 07:26 PM | #48 | |
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So im thinking your idea could solve the Lean AFR which is a symptom associated with the spike, but not solve the original problem, which is the boost spike.
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05-31-2013, 09:10 PM | #49 |
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The boost spike is a product of the rotor speed and how fast the bypass valve closes
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The fix is in shifting with the throttle on the floor Or what is better known as power shifting
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05-31-2013, 09:14 PM | #51 |
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This would prevent the bypass valve from opening between shifts
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05-31-2013, 09:52 PM | #52 |
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on the tpis , i had issues with the tpis throwing code on decel around the 3k rpm...would go into protect mode...of course , that happens to be my highway cruising speed around 80-85mph, if i would see a cop, i would let off gas and it would throw code...jim sent another tb and it worked perfect...as for the big hp gains, we had to tune the car on the stock tb, and when we got tpis in we retuned and only saw about a 8hp gain...imo..
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05-31-2013, 10:09 PM | #53 |
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I'm at the track now. I'll try that in my next run. Always scares me.
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05-31-2013, 11:15 PM | #54 | |
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What im saying is if at 4000rpms the blower is spinning at 8000rpms (just for the sake of the argument) it should compress enough air to pressurize the manifold 5psi, there is no way the blower is spinning 16,000rpms at 4000rpm engine speed to cause such a HUGE boost spike. plus if you look at one of his logs the boost was spiking DURING the run.
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05-31-2013, 11:19 PM | #55 | |
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I did find that desired throttle position isn't equal to actual throttle position, and ive seen this exact phenomena cause spike even though I dont know how to explain it well, im thinking the throttle body opens up flows alot of air gets to the point where it cannot hold blade position due to the large amount of CFM flowing through the motor shuts partially and causes a spike of pressurized air between the throttle and the cylinders on a decelerating motor, notice how the spikes are happening when the throttlebody is OPEN but rpms are steady or in some cases going down. This is just a theory.
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06-01-2013, 02:07 AM | #56 | |
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I'm also seeing ridiculous IATs, my coolest run at the track tonight got up to 172 degrees (hotest was 199) ; Ted posted he saw a 25 degree drop in IATs...I'm thinking that and the RX Super CHiller i have ordered should knock out my IAT issue. I have some work to do, but I'm determined to get into the 10s my next trip to the track.
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