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Santos · 09-06-2009, 11:52 PM

So im kinda new to the chevy thing i have always been into imports so im still learning stuff. I was wondering if someone could clarify or tell me the big deal behind the Z28 i have always thought the z28 model was not as good as the SS i thought SS was the top of the line in camaro models.

ShnOmac · 09-06-2009, 11:58 PM

Consider can of worms open.....

I will give ya the basics because someone is going to come in and let you know in depth.

SS is the top dog ( think drag car)...Z/28 is more road course inspired.

Dan3 · 09-07-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by shnomac77

SS is the top dog ( think drag car)...Z/28 is more road course inspired.

IMO, the Z28 is a big deal only because there has been a Z28 for so long, and there is a lot of heritage there.

Personally, I don't think there will ever be a Z28 trim level. Z28 will be badging for a special appearance and/or handling package. Someday in the more distant future they may make a Z28 trim with a low-displacement, high-output, DI engine, but I think CAFE is gonna force all the engines to head that direction so I think this is unlikely. SS always has been the big bruiser in the Chevy line up. Making the Z28 a more powerful car would just open up a different can of worms from us malcontents who think SS should keep its top-dog status.

*DGthe3* · 09-07-2009, 12:27 AM

Z28 was originally a street legal race car, the SS package was originally an appearance deal and was later associated with huge power. Depending on what an individual considers racing, they will give you a different answer on what was better. SS's made for better drag cars but a Z28 would be better on a road course. Currently, General Motors considers the Z28 to be superior to Super Sport.

dursin · 09-07-2009, 12:29 AM

Little bit of history here....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-g...evrolet_Camaro

TJTKSDMJ8 · 09-07-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Santos

So im kinda new to the chevy thing i have always been into imports so im still learning stuff. I was wondering if someone could clarify or tell me the big deal behind the Z28 i have always thought the z28 model was not as good as the SS i thought SS was the top of the line in camaro models.

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GrnMchin · 09-07-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

Z28 was originally a street legal race car, the SS package was originally an appearance deal and was later associated with huge power. Depending on what an individual considers racing, they will give you a different answer on what was better. SS's made for better drag cars but a Z28 would be better on a road course. Currently, General Motors considers the Z28 to be superior to Super Sport.

In the Gen 1 the SS package was always the big HP car (350,396) and the Z28 was the roadrace car (302). So I guess its all in the prospective. I agree, but it seems as the Camaro progressed the Z28 became the big boy and the SS just an appearance option.

Dan3 · 09-07-2009, 12:37 AM

Honestly I don't feel this question quite merits a facepalm, TJT.

It took me a while to catch on to why the Z/28 and its heritage were such a big deal to Camaro enthusiasts. I have always been a fan of classic American muscle, but never been a Camaro enthusiast. If you gave me a wad of cash and a time machine, I would roll back with a '69 Chevelle Yenko and a '68 GTO ragtop. Camaro just happens to be the best muscle for my money today.

camaro5 · 09-07-2009, 12:50 AM

Z28 is simply the RPO designation that came up when the option package was originated.

People have loved different iterations, therefore the warmth for Z28.

TJTKSDMJ8 · 09-07-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan3

Honestly I don't feel this question quite merits a facepalm, TJT.

It took me a while to catch on to why the Z/28 and its heritage were such a big deal to Camaro enthusiasts. I have always been a fan of classic American muscle, but never been a Camaro enthusiast. If you gave me a wad of cash and a time machine, I would roll back with a '69 Chevelle Yenko and a '68 GTO ragtop. Camaro just happens to be the best muscle for my money today.

All in fun Dan. The Z28 is the Big Daddy. If you have questions, this is definitely the place to be. You have access to everybody here from those who are trolls and are here to talk trash(which I assumed wrongly you were..sorry) to people who actually work on the Camaro at the plants and developmental areas. I guess I just felt like I was hanging out with my buddies in at an alumni party in the Darrel K Royal, University of Texas Longhorn football stadium after getting off a flight, getting in my game gear, planning it forever, finally being at the party, tickets in hand, and a guy walks by and says" Football sucks".

*DGthe3* · 09-07-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GrnMchin

In the Gen 1 the SS package was always the big HP car (350,396 or 427) and the Z28 was the roadrace car (302). So I guess its all in the prospective. I agree, but it seems as the Camaro progressed the Z28 became the big boy and the SS just an appearance option.

I was taking a step back and looking at the history of the badge ... I suppose I should have been a bit clearer. Either way, yes the SS Camaro's were the ones with the big honkin' engines while the Z28's had those impressive little 302's.

GrnMchin · 09-07-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DGthe3

I was taking a step back and looking at the history of the badge ... I suppose I should have been a bit clearer. Either way, yes the SS Camaro's were the ones with the big honkin' engines while the Z28's had those impressive little 302's.

You beat me to the punch, I was going to add the Z28 was inspired by the Trans-AM racing series and born from that aspect so it carries a very big stick or weight with the Camaro community. Much like Shelby does with Ford.

The Z28 is and in my mind will always be the true racing Camaro that we all in the family desire.

*TAG UR IT* · 09-07-2009, 01:15 AM

No offense to the OP, but the

tool is really your friend on this topic.
We've had quite a few threads on this. Seriously, check it out and you will find endless discussion on the issue.

Punk_rider · 09-07-2009, 03:49 AM

Overall, I won't talk for all the Z28 guys outthere, but personnally, when I say "I want a Z28" I just mean "I want a GT500 killer with 550 hp whatever its name". SS being the historical top dog? Ok, but that "top dog" seems way too "low" for me

09-06-2009, 11:52 PM	#1
Santos Santos Drives: 1SS Blk 6M ECS 1500 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 606 View My Garage	Z28 whats the big deal? So im kinda new to the chevy thing i have always been into imports so im still learning stuff. I was wondering if someone could clarify or tell me the big deal behind the Z28 i have always thought the z28 model was not as good as the SS i thought SS was the top of the line in camaro models. __________________

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DGthe3 Moderator.ca Drives: 05 Grand Am GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Niagara, Canada Posts: 25,372	Z28 was originally a street legal race car, the SS package was originally an appearance deal and was later associated with huge power. Depending on what an individual considers racing, they will give you a different answer on what was better. SS's made for better drag cars but a Z28 would be better on a road course. Currently, General Motors considers the Z28 to be superior to Super Sport. __________________ Note, if I've gotten any facts wrong in the above, just ignore any points I made with them __________________ Originally Posted by FbodFather My sister's dentist's brother's cousin's housekeeper's dog-breeder's nephew sells coffee filters to the company that provides coffee to General Motors...... ........and HE WOULD KNOW!!!! __________________ Camaro Fest sub-forum

09-07-2009, 12:37 AM	#8
Dan3 Captain of the Failboat Drives: 2010 IBM Camaro 2SS/RS Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: USAF Seymour Johnson- Goldsboro, NC Posts: 405	Honestly I don't feel this question quite merits a facepalm, TJT. It took me a while to catch on to why the Z/28 and its heritage were such a big deal to Camaro enthusiasts. I have always been a fan of classic American muscle, but never been a Camaro enthusiast. If you gave me a wad of cash and a time machine, I would roll back with a '69 Chevelle Yenko and a '68 GTO ragtop. Camaro just happens to be the best muscle for my money today. __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS - Imperial Blue w/Black Leather Interior Ordered - 22 June 2009 Produced - 10 August 2009 : #34143 Delivered - 25 August 2009

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Punk_rider Drives: VW Typ 166 + Black 1LE Join Date: May 2007 Location: Paris, France Posts: 763	Overall, I won't talk for all the Z28 guys outthere, but personnally, when I say "I want a Z28" I just mean "I want a GT500 killer with 550 hp whatever its name". SS being the historical top dog? Ok, but that "top dog" seems way too "low" for me __________________ I'm kindly asking: "May I have a supercharged Z28 with 550 hp please? By the end of 2009 would be awesome. Thanks"

09-06-2009, 11:58 PM	#2
ShnOmac Drives: 2006 Silverado SS, 2009 G8 GT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: PNW Posts: 13,313	Consider can of worms open..... I will give ya the basics because someone is going to come in and let you know in depth. SS is the top dog ( think drag car)...Z/28 is more road course inspired.

09-07-2009, 12:29 AM	#5
dursin Drives: Suburban Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 208	Little bit of history here.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-g...evrolet_Camaro

09-07-2009, 01:15 AM	#13
TAG UR IT www.Camaro5store.com Drives: 2014 ZL1 #705 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SA, Texas Posts: 26,558 View My Garage	No offense to the OP, but the tool is really your friend on this topic. We've had quite a few threads on this. Seriously, check it out and you will find endless discussion on the issue.

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