GT-R > Viper ACR @ 1/4 mile

[ihc95]

Firstly, Stop all this bitchin around

Ok. I do believe that the GT-R has legitimately won that race. I think the times were based on when the cars started to move. If you look closely, the Viper started a lot earlier and by the end of the run they were neck and neck. Also the Viper is a strict track car and is geared VERY TALL. Thats why it lost. The normal Viper is a bit faster on the straits and should've come closer to the GT-R in that race. Also technology does sometimes beat brute force.

Ex. Bugatti Veyron, 1001hp, 4500lbs = 0-60 in 2.46 sec
SSC Ultimate Aero, 1184hp, ~2800lbs = 0-60 in 2.73 sec

The Veyron has computers move all the power around the car for optimal traction. The GT-R does the same:

Ex. Nissan GT-R, 480hp, 3800lbs, = 0-60 in 3.3
Ferrari 599 GTB, 620hp, 3800lbs, = 0-60 in 3.7

[Shadowsong]

Originally Posted by ihc95

Firstly, Stop all this bitchin around

Ok. I do believe that the GT-R has legitimately won that race. I think the times were based on when the cars started to move....

Its like that at any dragstrip.

[Nexus6]

where i come from when the lights turn green and you cross the finish line second,that makes you the first loser

[z28camaro2471]

Sure it ran a faster time but he still LOST!

:middlefinger:

I'll take a new Vette AND a new SS Camaro and still spend less $ (well maybe a little more).

:middlefinger:

Oh yeah, Merry Christmas!!

[Jamestwilliams]

Originally Posted by ihc95

Firstly, Stop all this bitchin around

Ok. I do believe that the GT-R has legitimately won that race. I think the times were based on when the cars started to move. If you look closely, the Viper started a lot earlier and by the end of the run they were neck and neck. Also the Viper is a strict track car and is geared VERY TALL. Thats why it lost. The normal Viper is a bit faster on the straits and should've come closer to the GT-R in that race. Also technology does sometimes beat brute force.

Ex. Bugatti Veyron, 1001hp, 4500lbs = 0-60 in 2.46 sec
SSC Ultimate Aero, 1184hp, ~2800lbs = 0-60 in 2.73 sec

The Veyron has computers move all the power around the car for optimal traction. The GT-R does the same:

Ex. Nissan GT-R, 480hp, 3800lbs, = 0-60 in 3.3
Ferrari 599 GTB, 620hp, 3800lbs, = 0-60 in 3.7

Yeah but outside of drag racing 0-60 means nothing and the GT-R can't touch an ACR, ZR1 or Ferrari 599 GTB at high speed acceleration.

[Georgie]

that's why i like the viper. big a-- american metal under the hood, no computers (i'm not playing metal gear solid or doing my taxes here) and wicked one of a kind styling:



now imagine if you put forced induction in that beast!

[SilverTurtle]

Originally Posted by Shadowsong

You guys do know that the GT-R can and does rip out 11.xx times WITHOUT launch control....right? A few mods, hell just a tune and it is low 11's, breaking 10's WITH launch control... Why does everyone think this is a terrible car again?

Oh yeah, ignorance and misinformation instead of doing research, that's right. My bad.

I forgot this was an American car forum, therefor:

Japanese = bad car
Anything that isn't a v8 = bad car
Turbo = bad


/Rant off.

Yes, the viper is a nice performance car, but imo it is ugly as SIN. That and the ACR has NO CREATURE COMFORTS AT ALL. The GT-R has a FULL interior, radio, A/C and all kinds of other electronic gizmos. The fact that a car with all the creature comforts and more, can even run a 1/4 anywhere close to that of a stripped down racecar is an amazing feat, but in the video the GT-R manages a FASTER time.... yet people still bag on it.... See above rules for American car forum I suppose....

/Flame suit on.

you couldn't be more wrong about this forum... there are several of us who are either current import owners or former import owners... and I'm one of them... not only that, but I'm a former SCCA driver who used to drive an import, so I think I can safely talk crap about any and all cars that are made on the planet earth... and having driven more cars than most people have even thought about, I'm pretty qualified to talk about alot of vehicles on several levels... and the reason I hate on the GTR is because its false advertisement... they padded the numbers, have a "void warranty" button and lie about the car's horsepower... which, honestly, is a good thing... but its still a lie... and that lie keeps people talking about the car as if it has 480hp, when we all know its over 500hp at the flywheel... and since there are a ton of morons on the internet who think its cool to be stupid and talk crap with the false numbers, I hate on those morons, too.

and if turbos are so bad, why do we love the HHR SS and the Cobalt SS? they're both turbo cars and we rave about them... they're performance bargains and I would completely own one if they got better gas mileage than my '99 FRC.

which brings me to why we love the V8 so much on this forum: its big, powerful and efficient... even the Mustang GT is more efficient, overall, then its V6 variant... they're more fun, they sound better and its just plain cool to have one... not to mention they're usually top of the line, and, well, top of the line is fun to have/drive... in 1989, the Anniversary Edition Trans Ams had turbocharged 3.8L V6s in them... and those were the top of the line TAs at the time... and you know what, those WERE cool cars and STILL ARE cool cars... and look at that, they're V6s with TURBOS.

when the first generation Viper GTS stopped production, the Viper, IMO, quit being beautiful... they might be faster than they've ever been, they might better built than they ever were before and they might be the best handling versions to date, but the current SRT model Vipers are just not pretty... I just can't get into the edgy look... snakes are curved and coiled animals, and the original Vipers had that look.

[Nexus6]

Originally Posted by Georgie

that's why i like the viper. big a-- american metal under the hood, no computers (i'm not playing metal gear solid or doing my taxes here) and wicked one of a kind styling:



now imagine if you put forced induction in that beast!

ask and you shall receive

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/R...-TT_174129.htm

[ihc95]

Originally Posted by SilverTurtle

you couldn't be more wrong about this forum... there are several of us who are either current import owners or former import owners... and I'm one of them... not only that, but I'm a former SCCA driver who used to drive an import, so I think I can safely talk crap about any and all cars that are made on the planet earth... and having driven more cars than most people have even thought about, I'm pretty qualified to talk about alot of vehicles on several levels... and the reason I hate on the GTR is because its false advertisement... they padded the numbers, have a "void warranty" button and lie about the car's horsepower... which, honestly, is a good thing... but its still a lie... and that lie keeps people talking about the car as if it has 480hp, when we all know its over 500hp at the flywheel... and since there are a ton of morons on the internet who think its cool to be stupid and talk crap with the false numbers, I hate on those morons, too.

They dont at all have false numbers. Nissan claims 0-60 in 3.5. Motortrend got 3.2. Even Roadandtrack, Edmunds, and Caranddriver with their shity drivers got under 3.5. Also, Nissan recorded and official lap time of 7:38 on the Nurburgring for the GT-R. But a couple of engineers went to do a couple of flying laps for fun and got 7:29. And 480hp is accurate. The GTR has extremely minimal drivetrain loss wheras Motortrend calculated their 507hp using a 15% drivetrain loss.

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by ihc95

They dont at all have false numbers. Nissan claims 0-60 in 3.5. Motortrend got 3.2. Even Roadandtrack, Edmunds, and Caranddriver with their shity drivers got under 3.5. Also, Nissan recorded and official lap time of 7:38 on the Nurburgring for the GT-R. But a couple of engineers went to do a couple of flying laps for fun and got 7:29. And 480hp is accurate. The GTR has extremely minimal drivetrain loss wheras Motortrend calculated their 507hp using a 15% drivetrain loss.

how about without launch control?

[TheClassicCarKid]

Originally Posted by ihc95

They dont at all have false numbers. Nissan claims 0-60 in 3.5. Motortrend got 3.2. Even Roadandtrack, Edmunds, and Caranddriver with their shity drivers got under 3.5. Also, Nissan recorded and official lap time of 7:38 on the Nurburgring for the GT-R. But a couple of engineers went to do a couple of flying laps for fun and got 7:29. And 480hp is accurate. The GTR has extremely minimal drivetrain loss wheras Motortrend calculated their 507hp using a 15% drivetrain loss.

I thought 15% would be about right for an AWD car?

[z28collection]

Originally Posted by GatorBlue371

is it just me, or does it LOOK like the viper won....



ps. that GTR isnt Stock... not sure why a modded car beating a stock car proves anything

thats what i thought it looked like the gtr never passed but i dont know.

[Kyle2k]

Originally Posted by Jamestwilliams

Yeah but outside of drag racing 0-60 means nothing and the GT-R can't touch an ACR, ZR1 or Ferrari 599 GTB at high speed acceleration.

Maybe if your idea of racing is nascar?

[ihc95]

Originally Posted by kevin2323

how about without launch control?

3.8 without launch control.