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PercyJWellingtonIII · 10-29-2011, 10:28 AM

I have decided my next mod will be to order an LFX engine to replace my 2011 engine with 10k mi on it. The 20lb weight reduction and 12 extra HP should be well worth it in my opinion.

PercyJWellingtonIII · 10-29-2011, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ihaveacamaro

LFX is very much a significant improvement. Reduce weight, more efficient, and more horsepower hardly ever come in one package engine wise.

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How could it be significant if it equates to little or no difference in track performance. It still comes down to a drivers race when matching to the first 2 year models. Its only better on paper or maybe just a stepping stone to something better for next years model.

PercyJWellingtonIII · 10-29-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by G10

Not that I'm happy about it but something went wrong in my 4th cylinder and the dealership is giving me a brand new engine! It's happening right now. I'm getting the new LFX. I'm hoping I can feel those 9 extra horses. I just hope she runs as good as she did 2 weeks ago before the problem arrose.

Fingers are crossed but stoked to be getting a new engine.

Wait a sec...Is you is....or Is you Aint..saying tht the dealer is replacng your your 2010 engine with a 2012 LFX engine??? Are you sure hi is not replacing it with another 2010?

Tarl · 10-29-2011, 11:08 AM

All 2010 and 2011 LLT have 312 BHP. GM was in such a hurry to get the 2010's out early they used the 304 BHP numbers from the same engine in the Cadilac CTS to throw around. Once the car was out there the Camaro itself was recertified thru the SAE and the horsepower numbers were adjusted to 312.

The LFX is said to have 323 BHP. 11 more than the LLT.

2010SLVRBULIT · 10-29-2011, 11:14 AM

LLT currently more mod friendly? LFX too soon to tell, and not sure many AM parts will be supporting it..but who knows.

Solocus · 10-29-2011, 12:56 PM

I understand that max torque is about the same on LFX and LLT, but I believe on the LFX it is several hundred RPMs lower in the band. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

PoorMansCamaro · 10-29-2011, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBobGuptaMarley

2010 camaro v6 has 305 hp, they bumped it for 2011 and those numbers were disputed. Fact. To be even more clear. Again, arguing below me is awkward and your still wrong so let's just do some independent study and then meet back here in 5 minutes

You need to get your facts straight. The 2010 LLT was rated at 305, but not tested at 305. They used the caddy's numbers. They tested the exact same engine in 2011, and it came out to 312. Same exact motor, just a different year. All LLT's make 312hp.

jeff4946 · 10-29-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PercyJWellingtonIII

Wait a sec...Is you is....or Is you Aint..saying tht the dealer is replacng your your 2010 engine with a 2012 LFX engine??? Are you sure hi is not replacing it with another 2010?

Is you is... Or is you aint, my constituants? Love that flick!! I tell ya what, if they did replace it with the LFX, I would be pissed... Now its not a numbers matching car, and your value just s*** the bed to any collectors down the road.

But then again, I guess it won't be a numbers matching, no matter how you toss it out there now.

C586 · 10-29-2011, 07:48 PM

If it's a stickshift neither one is a good car. If you want a stickshift v6 buy a different car. The sticks are nothing but problems. I have had my car at dealers for over 50 days and still have major issues.

PercyJWellingtonIII · 10-30-2011, 02:37 AM

Actually the 2011 model is both nicer and faster than the 2010s and the 2012. Why do I say that?...its simple...I have a 2011.

Sterling · 10-30-2011, 02:45 AM

The LFX should be easier to tune than the LLT since it doesn't have the Bosch ECU.

10-29-2011, 12:56 PM	#34
Solocus Drives: 87 Iroc 350, 2001 SS, 45th 2LT Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: St. Louis Posts: 188 View My Garage	I understand that max torque is about the same on LFX and LLT, but I believe on the LFX it is several hundred RPMs lower in the band. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. __________________ 2012 2LT 45th Anniversary Edition ~ Solocus Delivered 9-29-2011 exactly 45 years to the day from the first 1967 Camaro showing up in dealer showrooms!

10-30-2011, 02:45 AM	#39
Sterling Drives: 2010 Camaro 1LT/RS M6 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Fairhaven, MA Posts: 5,885 View My Garage	The LFX should be easier to tune than the LLT since it doesn't have the Bosch ECU. __________________ Trifecta tune, Vararam Intake, VMAX throttle body and manifold insulator, RxPerformance Catch Can, , MRT v1.0 and Louvers, Barton shifter, BMR strut tower brace, RED dome light and Plasma LED DRL's, fieldgoal00's Halo 1 harness, hood spears/side stripes, rain guards, custom bowtie, Team LLT badges, headlight and foglight covers, taillight and side marker covers, backup light covers, WeatherTech floormats

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10-29-2011, 10:28 AM	#29
PercyJWellingtonIII Account Suspended Drives: pontiac Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Md Posts: 1,512 View My Garage	I have decided my next mod will be to order an LFX engine to replace my 2011 engine with 10k mi on it. The 20lb weight reduction and 12 extra HP should be well worth it in my opinion.

10-29-2011, 11:08 AM	#32
Tarl Drives: Rally Yellow/black -2010 Camaro Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego, CA (USA) Posts: 207	All 2010 and 2011 LLT have 312 BHP. GM was in such a hurry to get the 2010's out early they used the 304 BHP numbers from the same engine in the Cadilac CTS to throw around. Once the car was out there the Camaro itself was recertified thru the SAE and the horsepower numbers were adjusted to 312. The LFX is said to have 323 BHP. 11 more than the LLT.

10-29-2011, 11:14 AM	#33
2010SLVRBULIT Drives: G5(LLT) & C6(LS3) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MARS Posts: 7,527 View My Garage	LLT currently more mod friendly? LFX too soon to tell, and not sure many AM parts will be supporting it..but who knows.

10-29-2011, 07:48 PM	#37
C586 Account Suspended Drives: 2011 Camaro LS Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: NY Posts: 1,117	If it's a stickshift neither one is a good car. If you want a stickshift v6 buy a different car. The sticks are nothing but problems. I have had my car at dealers for over 50 days and still have major issues.

10-30-2011, 02:37 AM	#38
PercyJWellingtonIII Account Suspended Drives: pontiac Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Md Posts: 1,512 View My Garage	Actually the 2011 model is both nicer and faster than the 2010s and the 2012. Why do I say that?...its simple...I have a 2011.