Anyone running the zl1 fuel pump w/ adm module on a FI LS3? - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Jpb972 · 11-15-2013, 05:12 AM

Curious how effective it is and how much boost it will support.

pdiddy · 11-15-2013, 06:36 AM

You will get many differnt opinions on this, mostly hp numbers some say 600whp others 650 usually people making about that much hp on FI LS3 are running from 8-to maybe 10lbs of boost I am switching to the zl1 adm setup very soon and will be running about 8.5 lbs of boost. I also think you can get away with the higher numbers like 650 if you have good injectors like IDs or FICs that can help keep fuel pressure up

Jpb972 · 11-15-2013, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by pdiddy

You will get many differnt opinions on this, mostly hp numbers some say 600whp others 650 usually people making about that much hp on FI LS3 are running from 8-to maybe 10lbs of boost I am switching to the zl1 adm setup very soon and will be running about 8.5 lbs of boost. I also think you can get away with the higher numbers like 650 if you have good injectors like IDs or FICs that can help keep fuel pressure up

Thanks for the info. Sounds like I will be good to go. Installed mine the other day (pump/module). Installing Paxton's 1200sl kit soon. I should be about high 5's low 6's. Kit comes with 66lb injectors but don't know anything about them other than that.

So far installed bbk Lt's w/ high flow cats, Borla s-type cat back , slp zr1 clutch kit, and the zl1 pump and amd module.

Milkman20 · 11-15-2013, 08:30 AM

So does the ADM module eliminate the need for a fuel pump booster(MSD)? Or would there still be benefits from the booster in addition?

Jpb972 · 11-15-2013, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkman20

So does the ADM module eliminate the need for a fuel pump booster(MSD)? Or would there still be benefits from the booster in addition?

From what I understand it is not needed. The pump can produce the needed pressure and the module allows for a greater range of tuning options in order to make the pump perform the way you need it to.

Others please reply if I'm wrong.

mylftft · 11-15-2013, 08:56 AM

Send an email to Andy & ask him. I know PMJ on here is pushing that setup really far at around 800rwhp, he was running it that way at The Texas Mile, you could pm him also.

Iam Broke · 11-15-2013, 09:01 AM

The combo wasn't enough for me on E85 at ~600 whp but E85 requires ~30% additional fueling. Livernois dual pump I still see a pressure drop also, waiting for the Squash returnless system to be released. 9 psi boost with ID850's.

grocerygetter · 11-15-2013, 09:22 AM

works fine for me through an auto and big converter showing 628whp...mid 10 second range in the 1/4 I guess...we run 1kft here and it runs 8.8@116. Rhino said no concern when he was tuning it.

epstein · 11-15-2013, 11:58 AM

Im running it with now issues . Make sure you install it and have your tuner put a tune for it

Brian

2012REDSS · 11-16-2013, 09:08 AM

607rwhp and no issues. Vortech V3si

Jpb972 · 11-23-2013, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012REDSS

607rwhp and no issues. Vortech V3si

grocerygetter · 11-23-2013, 12:03 PM

btw...with headers added and 654whp the car picked up a bit over a tenth and 3mph. fuel still fine...pullied down 2 more psi and went to like 675...fuel pressure dropped 3psi. so we put it back at the 654 boost and tune.

JANNETTYRACING · 11-23-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Milkman20

So does the ADM module eliminate the need for a fuel pump booster(MSD)? Or would there still be benefits from the booster in addition?

This set up can still benefit from an MSD fuel pump voltage booster.

patternpilot · 11-23-2013, 01:41 PM

My Whipple came with the MSD booster. I installed it even though several folks here said it was not needed. I installed the ZL1 fuel pump and ADM pump controller and had Ted tune it. I am holding 68psi fuel pressure at the fuel rail at 9psi boost consistently at all rpm's using the injectors that came with the Whipple. No dyno numbers though.

11-15-2013, 05:12 AM	#1
Jpb972 Drives: 2011 2SS/RS Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: South jersey Posts: 584 View My Garage	Anyone running the zl1 fuel pump w/ adm module on a FI LS3? Curious how effective it is and how much boost it will support.

11-15-2013, 06:36 AM	#2
pdiddy Drives: 2011 2SS Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 997	You will get many differnt opinions on this, mostly hp numbers some say 600whp others 650 usually people making about that much hp on FI LS3 are running from 8-to maybe 10lbs of boost I am switching to the zl1 adm setup very soon and will be running about 8.5 lbs of boost. I also think you can get away with the higher numbers like 650 if you have good injectors like IDs or FICs that can help keep fuel pressure up __________________ 2011 2SS,fti th400, ECS 1500, Flex Fuel, Boost built 376, squash fuel system

11-15-2013, 08:30 AM	#4
Milkman20 Drives: Red 2010 Camaro 2SS L99 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 208 View My Garage	So does the ADM module eliminate the need for a fuel pump booster(MSD)? Or would there still be benefits from the booster in addition? __________________ 2010 Camaro 2SS/RS L99 6AT - 451 RWHP, 414 RWTQ TSP VVT-3 Cam DOD/AFM Delete, Ported Stock Heads, Circle-D 2B Multi Disk Converter, Custom 3" Exhaust w/Burns Mufflers Exhaust Clip: http://youtu.be/c_quv8eoVNQ

11-15-2013, 08:56 AM	#6
mylftft Drives: 2013 TT ZL1 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: NorCal Posts: 849	Send an email to Andy & ask him. I know PMJ on here is pushing that setup really far at around 800rwhp, he was running it that way at The Texas Mile, you could pm him also. __________________

11-15-2013, 09:01 AM	#7
Iam Broke PHAT B33 Drives: 2012 TF3 Camaro 2SS/RS M6 Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Dark of the Moon Posts: 1,460 View My Garage	The combo wasn't enough for me on E85 at ~600 whp but E85 requires ~30% additional fueling. Livernois dual pump I still see a pressure drop also, waiting for the Squash returnless system to be released. 9 psi boost with ID850's. __________________ Another 1 of 371 '12 T3 LS3 M6's built.

11-15-2013, 09:22 AM	#8
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	works fine for me through an auto and big converter showing 628whp...mid 10 second range in the 1/4 I guess...we run 1kft here and it runs 8.8@116. Rhino said no concern when he was tuning it. __________________ -John S.

11-15-2013, 11:58 AM	#9
epstein Account Suspended Drives: SS/RS Join Date: May 2010 Location: Transplanted from NYC..(ret. NYPD).Now in CT Posts: 904	Im running it with now issues . Make sure you install it and have your tuner put a tune for it Brian

11-16-2013, 09:08 AM	#10
2012REDSS Drives: 2012 Camaro SS Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NC Posts: 657	607rwhp and no issues. Vortech V3si

11-23-2013, 12:03 PM	#12
grocerygetter instigator Drives: 2020 6.2 Trail Boss, 2022 XC90 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 72034 Posts: 3,979 View My Garage	btw...with headers added and 654whp the car picked up a bit over a tenth and 3mph. fuel still fine...pullied down 2 more psi and went to like 675...fuel pressure dropped 3psi. so we put it back at the 654 boost and tune. __________________ -John S.

11-23-2013, 01:41 PM	#14
patternpilot Drives: 2012 2SS/RS Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Tri-Cities WA. Posts: 928 View My Garage	My Whipple came with the MSD booster. I installed it even though several folks here said it was not needed. I installed the ZL1 fuel pump and ADM pump controller and had Ted tune it. I am holding 68psi fuel pressure at the fuel rail at 9psi boost consistently at all rpm's using the injectors that came with the Whipple. No dyno numbers though. __________________ There's more to life than gas mileage LS3, Whipple, Custom Comp Cam, springs, pushrods, timing set, CAI intake, Apex cold air scoop, Doug Thorley TRI-Y headers, Billet Custom Products baffled Valve covers, Mighty Mouse Catch can, ADM FPCM, ZL1 fuel pump, MSD boost-a-pump, Hex Vent hood vents, ProSport gauges(fuel pressure, AFR, Boost), Corsa, 100 cell Cats. Jannetty remote tuned, Pfadt trailing arms, all parts user installed. No Dyno yet. Manual trans. 3.45 gears.